We need more heroes.

I've done some Googling to find out why people believe that suicide is wrong. In my searching, I came across this tidy little list:

1.Suicide is FOREVER. You do not get to wake up. You do not get a second chance. You will not be able to say, "Wait, I want to stay." There is no turning back.

2.Think about the situation in grisly fact. Someone will have to find your body, and most likely it will be someone who loves and cares for you. They will bear this in their memory for the rest of their lives.

3.If you kill yourself at someone else’s hand, such as laying in front of a car or train or forcing a police officer to kill you, know that these people will bear the brunt of the emotional turmoil and will always wish that it could have been different.

4.There may be people standing on the sidelines, knowing that you are in pain and wishing that they could help you. These people will suffer forever in guilt, wondering if there was more they could have done or said to change your mind. They will blame themselves.

5.The repercussions go far beyond this. Friends or family members may grow so despondent that they, in turn, take their own lives.

6.Most newspapers will not even mention your name after death by suicide.

Here are my brief response:

1.Death is FOREVER. Everybody dies. There is no turning back, once you've been born.

2.Which speaks to the need of integrating suicide optionality into the cultural psyche in such a way that it becomes a viable, acceptable alternative. Irrational stigma is a HUGE factor here, and a little softening of societal denialism could work wonders in taking the edge off.

3.Ah, the old guilt trip rears its ugly head yet again. Remember, life was the burden foisted on the unfortunate chappy for the benefit of persons other than himself. Contrariwise, suicide is a gift he gives himself.

4.More guilting. On the other hand, an enlightened and sympathetic person might think "Wow, she's finally released from her pain. Though it hurts me to lose her, she is finally at peace. And, after all, I'm headed for the same destination in short order, one way or the other. God bless her!"

5.Yeesh! Guilt, upon guilt, upon guilt! I mean, really- at some point, you just have to say fuck 'em if they can't take a joke, don't you?

6.Is this a comment on social denialism reflected in the press, or are they merely pointing out that shortly after your death you're forgotten by almost everybody? If the former, then I'd say this simply reflects society's general immaturity when it comes to looking reality square in the face. If the latter, well...DUH! We are the future's dirt.

>>669179
Why have you posted that here, and not on one of those websites you've been on? OP just said suicide kills more than wars and murder. No one posted anything after that.

At the very least you could explain WHY it's guilt tripping. Regardless of circumstance, a parent/sibling/friend will be ruined by finding you lying dead in a pool of blood, feces and piss. Nothing could 'take the edge off' that.

As for someone running you over, or being forced to kill you, they WOULD be traumatised. Some people don't want to murder others, you know? How is telling people that guilt tripping? 

I'm guessing if you found the little body of the girl you love so much hanging from the roof, bloated and purple with a puddle of piss at her feet, swinging lifelessly but stiff and freezing cold when you try to move her, you'd just shrug it off and say "God bless her", right? 

Not even getting into this, just some suggestions for you when you do eventually debate about this.
 

http://xl1.biz/ae7f2b

>>669184
>I'm guessing if you found the little body of the girl you love so much hanging from the roof, bloated and purple with a puddle of piss at her feet, swinging lifelessly but stiff and freezing cold when you try to move her, you'd just shrug it off and say "God bless her", right?

No, actually I'd celebrate her as an hero, and then take a picture of it and post it on the internet.

I'd be sad that I lost a friend, but I'd still be glad that she would now be free from any problems and pain. Good for her!

>>669267
'An hero', troll harder.

>>669268
If your faggot emo ass would be traumatized then that is your own problem, but I would seriously celebrate it.

Go home and cry your eyes out at death, fuckin baby. I'll just take it as an inevitable part of life and move the fuck on.

>>669269
2/10.

For starters, I never said anything about being traumatised. 'Faggot emo ass' is also a lame insult. You sound about 14. 'Go home and cry your eyes out at death, fuckin baby', that's obviously a try at trolling but it's failed. Not to mention that picture is old and something generally used with 'trolling', though it's usually better than yours.

Your trying way too hard man. It's like you've been on 4chan for a month and think your a master troll, but in all honestly you aren't. Trolling is subtle, but enough to make a person blood boil. Your too much like a teenager arguing with his/her mom.

You get 2 points for still trying though.

>>669271
OK whatever, I'm "trolling".
Great.


But if your not traumatized by what was being described then what exactly are you arguing about? We both agree that seeing some girl you love dead from suicide is not traumatizing.

>>669272
It's not 'traumatising', but it would definitely have some damaging short term effects. Depression, isolation, loss of self worth (why did I allow her to get this bad/get home on time/save her?)...that's all I can think of at the moment, but go ask any relative whose had a love one die how it felt and I'm guessing it won't be 'not too bad'. Long term it could fuck up your love life, make you unable to get close to people in fear of losing them again or not feeling it's the right time to move on yet, or whatever. There will always be a missing part of your life in there that was once filled with them. When my Grandma died, my Grandad said how empty and lifeless their home felt. He'd wake up every morning, and in those few moments where you're not quite awake yet, he'd expect to see her. He didn't obviously. He would absent-mindedly make her tea sometimes forgetting she was gone, then get upset about it. He was old, but it'd be the same for anyone else.
 
That isn't 'society's doings. Even elephants are known to bury their dead and mourn. Death is an extremely sad thing to happen, especially if it's someone really close to you. Saying it would be a positive thing, regardless of how it happened, is cold and pretty heartless. Especially when you call the girl you love just 'some girl'. I imagine you aren't very loving or emotional at all, or have never had someone super close to you die.

>>669273
>It's not 'traumatising', but

Stopped reading there.

>>669276
So I'm guessing we aren't arguing this then. I post a reply and you can't answer it because you can't read. We all know your logic is just silly anyway. 

>>669297

I said:
>is not traumatizing.

You said:
>It's not 'traumatising'

Therefore, you are not the one I was commenting to.
Thank you for your comment, have a nice day.

----God is a child abuser. He creates children and then not only allows, but intentionally makes them suffer, even though he could easily intervene and free them of the suffering.
-----6 million children die of starvation every year.-----

------God does enjoy seeing some people enjoy themselves, so he does make some people who are successful and rich and well fed. But he mainly likes to see his children suffer.
------He created this world for his own amusement.
God made some animals have to brutally hunt down and slaughter other animals just to survive, because God enjoys seeing stuff like that. It's all a game to him.
------If we are to be more like god then it makes sense that we should abuse our children and those weaker than ourselves.

Hmm...I think work is a big contributing factor in suicides as well. I mean you wake up work for 10-12 hours a day and come home and work some more. That alone sucks. I had a friend that worked 16 hours a day and on some days he would work over 24 hours straight. Hell if I had to work like that I just wouldn't really see the point in living. I mean if I worked that many hours I wouldn't really fear death,because all I would be missing out on is work lol.

>>669555
LOL

I know this might sound terrible,but I don't think suicide is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I mean I think suicide is bad,but at the same time,if someone is suffering from an unbearable pain that will never go away and there is nothing anybody can do about it then honestly if suicide is the only way to be released from that pain then by all means kill yourself. Also try not to give a fuck about what other people think,I mean of course you might hurt someone you love by killing yourself,but hell I think its selfish that your loved ones are willing to watch you suffer in endless agony.

LOL I never thought I would ever suggest such a thing,but honestly why bother living when all you feel is pain and there is no hope for the future? For the past month,my life has been a living hell and I actually got to the point to where all I really thought about was killing myself. This month was simply a nightmare for me,right now I am having serious multiple health problems and throughout the entire month I thought there was nothing that could be done about it. To make things worse,my work load actually doubled right after I started having all of these problems! So for the most part I was in tons of pain and I still had to work up to 15 hours a day and I couldn't even have a day off. For the most part though I wasn't really stressed out about going to work,I was more concerned about my health.

I don't want to sound weak,but after this month I realized that all of the pain I have ever suffered from in the past is NOTHING compared to what other people go through. I mean,over a week ago I thought I was going to have to live with this pain for the rest of my life,but fortunately for me my doctor was wrong and I am finally getting better! Still this experience has changed me forever though. I think I sort of know what its like to suffer from an illness or injury that can never be cured. I realize now how weak I am when it comes to certain situations,and honeslty I just can't live with a painfull disease. For example I heard of this one guy that shot himself,because he found out he had cancer. When my family heard about it,they pretty much thought of the man as a quitter or a coward,but honestly WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU FOUND OUT YOU HAD CANCER? I mean seriously I don't think I have the right to judge people that kill themselves because they had cancer or aids etc,honestly I can't even imagine what that's like. Personally if I had cancer I would just let it kill me,I just don't see the point in suffering from something you can't even handle. I think suicide should ALWAYS be the very last resort,but if someone is suffering from an incurable disease that just constantly hurts them or they are in serious pain and they know for sure that it will never go away then honestly suicide isn't really that bad.

Still I don't think people should kill themselves over stupid stuff such as,being raped or losing a girlfriend. I mean when it comes to shit like that just move on,and do your best and surely you are likely to have a better future. There is one exception though,if you were raped and you got an std or a injury that will never heal then I don't blame you for killing yourself. Ever since all of this shit has happened to me,loneliness,long work hours isn't really that big of a deal to me anymore. At least something can be done about my problems...it all takes time,you just have to be patient.

>>669786
No one cares what you think, loser.

So,,, are you saying that people do not have a right to do suicide?
Have at it whenever you choose because the world already has over two billion too many people.

"669780" Lol I can now experience a joy that most human beings can never experience in their lifetimes. I have unlocked parts of my mind that laid dormant inside of me for years...now that I have access to an unlimited amount of wisdom,I can now look at life in ways that
t most human beings can't even begin to comprehend. So in my opinion your the loser :p.

My eyes are open and now I have achieved the status of a TRUE Buddha (the awakened one),of course I am more of a Dark Buddha vs a "good"/"moral" Buddha. With this wisdom,my potential is now LIMITLESS! By the way OP I agree with your pic,evolution is truly suicide.

Mary Ann Holder killed herself after shooting her two sons and three other children in the head:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-22/greensboro-nc-shooting/51352896/1

Man commits suicide hours after his wedding:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/22/8962435-report-groom-commits-suicide-hours-after-wedding

1,500 farmers commit mass suicide in India:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/1500-farmers-commit-mass-suicide-in-india-1669018.html

>>669555
If I commit suicide, it will not be to destroy myself but to put myself back together again. Suicide will be for me only one means of violently reconquering myself, of brutally invading my being, of anticipating the unpredictable approaches of God. By suicide, I reintroduce my design in nature, I shall for the first time give things the shape of my will.

Gay socialite grandson of silver-screen goddess Rita Hayworth commits suicide:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/hayworth_grandson_suicide_E7rvkahwvO88DuYfbJbCgP

Man kills 4 people, including a baby, in murder-suicide:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/06/infant-and-three-others-dead-in-nj-family-murder-suicide/

you make me want to die

if yoiu're so fucking enlighten.
Why the fuck are you still Here???

because it's so much fun to abuse idiots like U

Beloved weatherman's suicide leaves Kansas City stunned, grieving:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/30/3294934/fox-4-struggles-with-word-of-harmans.html

12 year old girl commits suicide:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/12/13/bully-claim-after-girl-12-kills-herself-115875-23631189/

Facebook status notifies police of murder-suicide:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-status-update-alerts-police-of-murder-suicide/6106

The Facebook post read as follows: “someone call 911. three dead bodies at 3229 lima road fort wayne indiana. I’ve killed ryann, erin, and myself. people were warned not to f*cking play me and ruin me. they didn’t listen. sorry about your luck.”


Suicide pact: Three friends commit suicide
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Suicide-pact-Three-friends-commit-suicide/articleshow/11087039.cms

Santa kills 7 people in Christmas day murder-suicide:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57348407/cops-santa-killed-texas-family-after-opening-presents/

Man commits suicide after wife beats him up in public:
http://www.emirates247.com/offbeat/crazy-world/man-commits-suicide-after-wife-beats-him-up-in-public-2012-01-11-1.437007

I see a family resemblance, do you?

>>671451
Yes, of course. No one here is arguing against evolution.

A gay California teenager who made an anti-suicide video last month urging other gay kids to "never give up" has killed himself:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gay-teen-filmmaker-eric-james-borges-commits-suicide/story?id=15355142#.TxQzNoFe5H0

Janice Robbins, 63, left a suicide note in her pickup truck before killing her granddaughter, Abby Robbins, and herself :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/authorities-ark-woman-stabbed-granddaughter-7-then-set-home-on-fire-in-murder-suicide/2012/01/09/gIQAronTmP_story.html

Chinese workers threaten mass suicide:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/workers-threaten-mass-suicide-at-company-that-supplies-apple-6288160.html

when the stars fall from the sky and the sun is blocked out= Christ Jesus return

I told you so wont cut it.

GOD CREATED MAN, MAN WITH GOD = NO SUICIDE
GOD THROWS THE DEVIL OUT RESULT
MAN AND DEVIL = SUICIDE

get it yet??

>>671461
Islamic nations generally have the lowest suicide rates(even with all the hype about suicide bombers in the news)

So that means Islam, not Christianity, is the true religion.

Check out the earings of that woman who killed her grandchild and killed herself >>671452

Testing. This captcha Is a pain in the ass.

Ok does anybody have any good tips on how to kill yourself? You see normally I would never consider suicide,but I guess if you hate life as much as I do then go for it. I want a quick and painless death,but sadly I dont own a gun. Now I am not saying I will kill myself anytime soon,but if my life gets too much worse then I am so fucking done.

Long story short I got hit by a vehicle going pretty fast and I spent a few weeks in the hospital. I also spent several weeks in rehab after I got out of the hospital,but fortunately for me with a lot of hard work I will return to normal in a little over a year. This accident kind of fucked me up though,ever since the day I got hit I realized we live in a cursed world and everything I have ever believed in is just one big fucking lie. I mean let's face it,life is just one sick joke and there is simply no meaning to life and also mankind is just a piece shit. I don't know why,but knowing this makes me sad.

Well since I'm injured I am at the mercy of others and that alone sucks. Anyways not too long ago I learned something about my family as well and honestly I think I would be a lot happier if I didn't know anything about it. Let's just say if my parents or the rest of my family ever found out that I was a pedo all of them would hate me...just being a pedo would be enough for them to hate me. I mean I now know for a fact that they would hate me,I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering the fact that pedos are the most hated minority in human history,but honestly I am a little surprised. My family doesn't know I'm a pedo,but I am sort of torn up over all of this.

I don't know,there is a part of me that wants to live,but my logic tells me I would be better off dead. Anyways tips on how to kill yourself quickly and painlessly are welcome,REMEMBER I don't have a gun. If there is anything out there that can kill you as quick as a bullet to the head I would love to know. Thanks.

>>671471
>Ok does anybody have any good tips on how to kill yourself?
No, absolutely not. Suicide is not the answer.

Anyways, consciousness is not created nor destroyed, only changed.

Realizing that life is ultimately meaningless is good. Even in the bible it says "meaningless, meaningless, everything is meaningless"

But being alive in this world and having different experiences and learning from them gives you the chance to change it for the better. Committing suicide as an attempt to escape that which you want to avoid will change it for the worst.

>>671472
I somewhat agree with you. I know running from your problems does you no good in the end,but hell it's taking everything I have just to stay sane.

I don't know,hopefully my mind will find a way to cope with all of the shit I have been through.  I mean even in life threatening situations I have always been able to deal with it so only time will tell.

Anyways I want to share a little story. First off by all accounts I shouldn't even be alive. My existence is technically impossible,due to the fact that when I was little I was faced with a hopeless situation that would end my life. I won't go into any details,but my chances of surviving the situation I was in was extremely slim or in other words my chances were as rare as winning the lottery (no joke!). Yet somehow I survived and not only that,but my health was excellent in the long run.

I have faced multiple life and death situations and somehow I was able to overcome every single one of them. I know I should be grateful,but damn i feel like I wasn't meant to exist. Of course that can't be true do to the fact that I'm still alive. 

I don't know...I think I just need to find a way to not give a shit about anything and just embrace who I am. It's not that simple though,I mean if I work hard enough my body will recover properly so no worrys there,but knowing that my loved ones would hate me for being a pedo saddens me. I am what I am though,and a part of me feels like it would be a waste to just kill myself considering that I have survived from something 99% fatal. I am not giving up,but if things get too much worse I don't know if I can take it. I'll figure something out. However I am surprised that I haven't gotten any suicide advice from the pedo haters.

I think every country should have an euthanasia like the netherlands. If you want to kill yourself, then you also should be allowed to, because it`s your own life. We get born into this world without our consent, then at least we should be allowed to decide whether we want to stay here or not. 

People who argue that comitting suiced is a sign of weakness and fear are nothing but peacockish panjandrums, who fail to realize how much willpower it actually can takes to commit suicide.

>>671472
>>consciousness is not created nor destroyed, only changed. 
>>Committing suicide as an attempt to escape that which you want to avoid will change it for the worst.
You know what the problem is with christian chadbands like you? You always pretend as if you would know about some kind of universal force which only chosen ones are able to see, but in reality you are nothing but a corny blithering idiot trying to override a too far developed low self-esteem complex.

The next time before you try to bedazzle others with your infinite wisdom, you should start to realize that your arguments are merely based on beliefs and not on facts.

Your spiritual gibberish may try to tell the people that humans have something like a soul, which will go to an other place after death and if you commit suicide you will get punished for this, but according to popular belief only human beings possess a soul, animals apparently do not.

So what is the difference between humans and animals? As far as I can tell it's just a question of intelligence, as measured by us. After all it's not that long ago that we were animals, we weren't created human, we just evolved along different lines than the others. That being the case there is nothing special about us that should warrant us having a soul and animals not, after all, some people are born with severe brain malfunctions that on an intelligence scale would rate them less than some animals. So intelligence can not be the deciding factor, unless you believe that you need to score above a certain IQ level in order to be granted a soul. If we tinker around with genetics and produce a chimp with the IQ of a schoolboy, would that give it a soul? Would the chimp go to heaven?

We think we have a soul, we think we are 'superior' to the animals, we think there is some undefinable quality about us that sets as apart from the animals. Hogwash! We are just animals that got smart. Getting smart is not in my view a passport to gaining a soul.

There is not a single shred of proof that we possess a soul. One thing however is for certain, we are all going to die one day.

>>671479
>You know what the problem is with christian chadbands like you?
I'm not a Christian, I'm an Atheist (and believe in evolution)

There certainly is no God(as defined by the bible, quran or the like), however it is also certain that something cannot come from nothing

You cannot have a bang without something that caused the bang.

We have a lot to learn about the details.

What do you want?
>>671391

>I am not giving up,but if things get too much worse I don't know if I can take it. I'll figure something out. However I am surprised that I haven't gotten any suicide advice from the pedo haters.

Hay PW, my advice would be to stop coming to this piss-drinker's board. The last time I checked in, about 3 months ago, it was the same troll with his suicide BS. There are a lot of other boards you could be posting on (like Krow's board) without this superfaggot where you could actually get some positive feedback and not be constantly heckled. It's just a minor suggestion, but I think it might help.

>>671480
>>You cannot have a bang without something that caused the bang.
"When it comes to the beginning of all known things there are really only two choices; either you believe that something always existed or something was created out of nothing."

Both options sound pretty absurd.

"If, however, nothing is claimed to be some sort of unknown state of affairs, that lacks all the characteristics of existence as it is now, but has some properties as yet indefinable, then it is possible for something spontaneous to occur that led to the creation of the universe."

Source: http://nmalbert.hubpages.com/hub/Nothing-Comes-From-Nothing

>>671471
>>If there is anything out there that can kill you as quick as a bullet to the head I would love to know.
I guess it`s not the most painless death, but these kind of suicides are boring anyway. If you want to kill yourself, then do it the cool way!

Pic related

>>671488
>If, however, nothing is claimed to be some sort of unknown state of affairs

Yes, and we could also say that Chocolate comes out of the ass, IF "chocolate" is claimed to be some sort of brown solid material.

LOL, amazing how far people will go to try and be right. Now we are inventing a new meaning for "nothing"? Pathetic.

Filesonic just killed itself
http://gizmodo.com/5878287/filesonic-just-killed-itself-by-disabling-file-sharing

A man in England is looking for a few volunteers — to help him commit suicide.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ruling-english-man-commit-suicide-article-1.1013030?localLinksEnabled=false

Mother Of Three Posts Suicide Note on Facebook Before Killing Herself
‎http://jotzoom.com/mother-of-three-posts-suicide-note-on-facebook-before-killing-herself/3406/

Islamic nations are you joking?

Look muslims are well known for killing them selfs to attack others, there religion states that muslims must kill christian's let alone be peaceful geezz!

so theres Satan again.= The greatest thing Satan ever did was to convince the world that he never exegesised.

Evolution and Globle warming is just another one a Satan's tricks to convince people that he doesnt exegesist.

The more people that don't blieve in true-religion which is to do with Christ Jesus and The father in Heaven, the more Satan's dominion on earth grow's, RESULTing more and more people feeling lost, pain, wanting more, alone and soon death.

Truly Brothers and sisters God is Love and What is Love:

1Corinthians13:4-7
Love is patient, love is kind, it does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud, it is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices in the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

GOD CREATED MAN, MAN WITH GOD = NO SUICIDE
GOD THROWS THE DEVIL OUT RESULT
MAN AND DEVIL = SUICIDE

>>671506
The Bible tells people to:
--------------- Kill people who believe in other religions ---------------
Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

-------- Invade and destroy non-Christian countries ----------
Exodus 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

----------------------------- Kill gay people -----------------------------
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

And yes, you here about suicide bombers in middle eastern countries, but even with that, middle eastern countries generally have a lower rate of suicide. Look it up bro.

But obviously both Islam and Christianity are for fools anyway. And I admit, Muslims on average are more foolish than Christians nowadays. Point is, being stupid may help prevent suicide

>>671490
Then my question to you is, what is nothing? Would it really be possible for nothing to exist? By definition nothing is something that does not exist. Try to describe nothing and you will always get something. From a scientific point of view could there ever really be nothing?

"True nothing" is that immeasurable, zero-energy, non-existent thing that did not exist before the universe, and all the space in it, came into existence.

Who knows what that was like?

>>671507

Religion is like program, sometime you need an update to avoid virus.

The only valid bible is the new testament, every other bible are invalid, like your argument.

The kuran in the other side have never evolved in 1600 years.


That explain a lot of thing.

Under the ten commandments exodus 20-13: You shall not murder.

Sacrifices on the Sabbath are Animals only mainly goats and sheep.

exodus 23-24, U have no right to judge God. There will always be wars and wars to come. all nations will turn on Israel -thats around the time of Christ's return.

Leviticus 20-13, they have broken a Law and commited sin: The penalty for doing things the Lord especially detested was severe.

The Nothing guy is right about muslims thanks.

The King who is Christ Jesus came 10BC The oldtestament is around 2500BC. Quran's first standardized version was written around 653 AD saudinf.com/display_news.php?id=2154

Please Read the newtestament, we are all ETERNAL beings, we all have a soul everyone has sin sin can not enter heaven Though Christ Jesus we can enter heaven because he has taken our Sin through repantance(prayer) when the Christ Sacrificed him self for everyone not just Israel on the cross.

Before the Christ the Israelites has to follow The Lord Gods Rules/Laws to enter Heaven like through moses the israelites where given the Ten Commandment to live by.

OR DEAD MAN WALKING:

Hell: First you come before God to be Judged, then you enter the lake of fire, then theres blackest of black, pain forever.

>>671510
>>Religion is like program...
Wrong. For the most of the part religion is the cancer of this world.

>>sometime you need an update to avoid virus.
True. That`s one of the main reasons why listening to the bible is so amazingly stupid and people who do it are still living in the mediaeval times.

>>The only valid bible is the new testament, every other bible are invalid
I hear so many Christians now a days claim that the Old Testament is defunct for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their Gawd. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their Gawd, that I have assembled a BRIEF list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it!

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

Etc...etc... Also consider that the "sins" of incest and bestiality are definitely sins for Christians. However, those "sins" are not mentioned in the New Testament at all – they are only mentioned in the OT. So, to reiterate –

Don’t ignore the Old Testament!

>>The kuran in the other side have never evolved in 1600 years.
>>That explain a lot of thing.
Yea, and I also always wondered why mankind partly still seems to live in the mediaeval times... The bible never evolved since the 4th Century AD. This explains a lot of things...

Also: English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

>>671508
Well now you are saying that the universe came from something but we are not sure what that something is. If calling that "nothing" makes you sleep better at night then fine.

The Bible tells people to:
--------------- Kill people who believe in other religions ---------------
Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

-------- Invade and destroy non-Christian countries ----------
Exodus 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

----------------------------- Kill gay people -----------------------------
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

>>671511
>>Under the ten commandments exodus 20-13: You shall not murder.
Strangely enough this is a commandment despite all the punishments that require death in the New Testament and the Old Testament. How can thou not kill when thou is commanded to kill at the same time?

>>Sacrifices on the Sabbath are Animals only mainly goats and sheep.
Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 31:15 “Whosoever shall work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death”. Numbers 15:32. “And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day…And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”

>>exodus 23-24, U have no right to judge God.
Exodus 20:7 “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death”, New Testament punishment - Matthew 12:32 “Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come”.

>>The Nothing guy is right about muslims thanks.
Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

And besides, I was the "Nothing guy".

>>Please Read the newtestament,
No thanks. I rather wait till a new version of the bible comes out. lol

>>we are all ETERNAL beings, we all have a soul
Read this: >>671479 You sound pretty holier-than-thou with your false pretences.

>>we all have a soul everyone has sin sin can not enter heaven Though Christ Jesus we can enter heaven
>>Before the Christ the Israelites has to follow The Lord Gods Rules/Laws to enter Heaven
>>Hell: First you come before God to be Judged, then you enter the lake of fire, then theres blackest of black, pain forever.
Consider all of the people who live in the remote regions of the world who have never even heard the "gospel" of Jesus Christ. Consider the people who have naturally adhered to the religion of their parents and nation as they had been taught to do since birth. If we are to believe the Christians, all of these people will perish in the eternal fire for not believing in Jesus. It does not matter how just, kind, and generous they have been with their fellow humans during their lifetime: if they do not accept the gospel of Jesus, they are condemned. No just God would ever judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions.

You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

I have only one word for your logic - lol - and frankly, I wonder why I actually wrote this here, because people like you are so hopelessly twisted and brainwashed, that it doesn`t make any sense to talk to you, anyway.

Instead, there is only one thing which could help people like you, and that is to go into therapy.

>>671514

>>Well now you are saying that the universe came from something but we are not sure what that something is. If calling that "nothing" makes you sleep better at night then fine.

I don`t know if the universe always existed, or has been created out of nothing, but all I know for sure is, that the big bang theory (wherefore the "nothing theory" speaks for) is definitely more authentic, than that some holy ghost or god created the universe, especially through all the antagonisms and other bullshit which come along with the latter.

Suicide: When pastors' silent suffering turns tragic
"Those who counsel pastors say Christian culture, especially Southern evangelicalism, creates the perfect environment for depression."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-10-28-pastor_suicides_N.htm

Pastor facing rape charge kills himself
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/pastor-122421099.html

Pastor and Wife commit suicide together
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/49733947.html

Priest commits suicide, jumping off a bridge
http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x519142332/Priest-accused-of-sexual-abuse-jumps-from-bridge-to-his-death

Say a prayer for Father James Pilsner, the pastor of Our Lady Queen of Peace Church, who killed himself while under treatment for depression
http://www.bettnet.com/blog/index.php/weblog/comments/pray_for_a_priest/

The Minister of Trinity Baptist Fellowship Church shot himself Thursday after he was investigated for having inappropriate communications with a 14 year old
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/south_phoenix/pd%3A-minister-shoots-self-in-teen-cyber-sex-case

Church leaders meet over pastor who killed himself
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07051/763520-100.stm

Pastor's suicide note read at congregation
http://www.cc.org/blog/pastor039s_suicide_note_read_congregation

Another priest commits suicide
http://ncronline.org/news/diocese-mourns-loss-priest-who-committed-suicide

Another priest suicide
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2011/08/shock-another-priest-suicide/

Pastor commits murder-suicide, kills wife, self
http://www.ksla.com/story/14884306/shreveport-pastor-wife-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide

>>671517
>holy ghost or god created the universe
I never said that. In fact I said I am an Atheist. But anyway, I am not sure what I am actually arguing so I will just say you won. I couldn't care less what you believe.

>>671520
>>I never said that.
I`ve never said that you said it.

I dont understanding you, they are Laws backed by Sin. even today in some countrys some Laws are punished by death.

Matthew22:29- Jesus replied, you are in error because you do not know the scriptures or the Power of God.

same gos for the nothing guy^ / your soul is you, NOT= the Holy Spirit Which is Gods gift to us.

that image just shows how bad you really are!

just question it: if im wrong and your right then nothing/ But if im right and your wrong then hell, so what do you have to lose. but i know im right ive been given proof from Christ Jesus and devil attacks from when i was newly Christian.

if you hate yourself here you'll hate even more in hell./ PEOPLE ARE NOT PERFECT!

NAMES OF GOD ALMIGHTY. - ANY OTHER NAMES ARE FROM THE FATHER OF LIES WHO IS THE DEVIL!
EL OLAM
ELOHIM
EL SHADDAI
EL ELYOU
I AM
ADONAI
YAHWEH/JEHOVAH
YAHWEH SABAOTH

>>671523
Funny how you just ignore my posts and just continue with your gospel gibberish instead.

Insane christians like you, who think that they`d know everything and try to shove down their insane beliefs other peoples throat, are the main reason why so many people hate christians, and IMO, people like you belong into therapy.

Also: English motherfucker. Do you speak it?

>>671524
That guy is not a Christian, probably just a bored agnostic trolling.

Suicide: When pastors' silent suffering turns tragic
"Those who counsel pastors say Christian culture, especially Southern evangelicalism, creates the perfect environment for depression."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-10-28-pastor_suicides_N.htm

Pastor facing rape charge kills himself
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/pastor-122421099.html

Pastor and Wife commit suicide together
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/49733947.html

Priest commits suicide, jumping off a bridge
http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x519142332/Priest-accused-of-sexual-abuse-jumps-from-bridge-to-his-death

Say a prayer for Father James Pilsner, the pastor of Our Lady Queen of Peace Church, who killed himself while under treatment for depression
http://www.bettnet.com/blog/index.php/weblog/comments/pray_for_a_priest/

The Minister of Trinity Baptist Fellowship Church shot himself Thursday after he was investigated for having inappropriate communications with a 14 year old
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/south_phoenix/pd%3A-minister-shoots-self-in-teen-cyber-sex-case

Church leaders meet over pastor who killed himself
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07051/763520-100.stm

Pastor's suicide note read at congregation
http://www.cc.org/blog/pastor039s_suicide_note_read_congregation

Another priest commits suicide
http://ncronline.org/news/diocese-mourns-loss-priest-who-committed-suicide

Another priest suicide
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2011/08/shock-another-priest-suicide/

Pastor commits murder-suicide, kills wife, self
http://www.ksla.com/story/14884306/shreveport-pastor-wife-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide

Thankyou very much for reading.

I Love talking about God its one of my favorite things to do.

Hope to see you in heaven.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL and PEACE BE WITH YOU!

I lol'd

I love watching Religious people try and argue. It's like they have blinders on that prevent them from being intelligent enough to pick up a history book or think for themselves.

To those of you that believe in God, it is because you were brainwashed and indoctrinated to do so at a young age. This was done by both your parents and parishioners/clergy at your local church/synagogue/Mosque. No one as a child just suddenly starts believing in a diety without first being told about him/her/it.

To those of you that believe in Jesus as your saviour.....you are all going to hell. This is according to your very own original scriptures....

Quote: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments."

Now if you look at historical FACT, prior to The King James bible, that was co-written by Shakespeare and some nameless scribes. This was in response to society as a whole becoming more enlightened and less violent. So in the powers that be decided to re-write the bible to be more in-line with societies values in that era. Much as we do now in ours by glossing over the stuff in the bible that does not jell with out current way of thinking. As an example gays, wars, the treatment of woman and children to name but a few.

Jesus was NEVER God incarnate or in human form. He was just his SON. He was created by God to walk among us. It was not until MUCH later as the religion grew that this was changed. Hell even Jesus only claimed to be his Son. So by worshiping Jesus as God or 'A' god you are in fact condemning yourself to 'Hell'.

If your gods REALLY existed, they would not allow your churches to splinter off into off-shoots over such silly things as what colours you can wear. Or allow genocidal wars over who is right or wrong. Or yes allow millions of children to starve per year. With but a word this could all be stopped. So either he does not exist or he/she/it is a total bastard ass hat that is neither deserving or worth your personal respect. The Christian/Muslim/Judaism god is no more real than the gods of the Greeks, Africans or myriad other religions they over-whelmed with sword and fire.

The concept of deities is prevalent everywhere in the world, because way-way back in time before we had completely evolved into our present form as humanity, we were living in tribes of super intelligent ape like creatures. We needed to explain to ourselves and our children why things worked the way they did. why the sun always came up everyday, why water fell from the sky, lightning, volcanoes etc..... And so we came up with the idea of spirits and gods. this had to be done because otherwise not knowing would drive us insane. This is also why every region in the world has legends of ghosts, dragons, giants etc.(Dragons due to dinosaur bones of course)

You will of course not go to hell for believing in Jesus. Anymore than I will for being white or black, because I wear a certain colour or even because I kill someone. This is simply because there is no such places as Heaven or Hell. There aren't or ever have been any gods. And there is no such thing as magic, regardless of what the bible says. You're collective little black books are nothing more than stories to keep people on the straight and narrow, and to scare people into doing what those in power want them to do.

If you do not believe me, just try reading some history books on the subjects. And I mean actually do so with an open mind, like you yourselves try to tell me when explaining your beliefs. Facts cannot be denied. Facts are facts because they can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. (Not in all cases I know) I know it's hard. Faith is one of the strongest things in the world simply because you believe in something REGARDLESS of evidence or lack of something physical/real.

So yes I CANNOT prove that God does not exist. But I was also told to believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa and the Tooth Faerie. Please remove the shackles of religion. the more of you that do so, the more peaceful the world will become. This is FACT!!!

I apologize for the super long post, but I thought it important....

~Concerned Canuck

Girl commits suicide after watching TV reports that a physics experiment could bring about the end of the world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7609631.stm

Notable scientists who have committed suicide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Scientists_who_committed_suicide

Police officer kills himself. Fourth NYPD suicide in less than 2 months:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/fourth_nypd_suicide_ZiTw1PvVesqS9UdXG77e4J

Tibetan nun commits suicide by setting herself on fire:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/tibet/9077545/Teenage-Tibetan-nun-sets-herself-on-fire-in-China.html

Child killer commits suicide:
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/national/story/Accused-child-killer-commits-suicide/0w4zvebCCkGXgx4dWWiV4A.cspx

>>671484
I know it's been a while,but damn I dont know how I missed this post. There are very few boards out there that actually allow pedos in them so that's why I come here. I used to come here to debate and vent,but now I'm done with that.

From now on I think I am just going to use this board to talk to rape victims whenever I get the chance,because I want to understand why they feel the way they feel about being raped.Of course I will be doing this on other boards too,anyways thanks for the advice.

>>671489 "go out the cool way" Well I'm not that suicidal anymore,but if I ever did decide to kill myself let's just say my death is going to EPIC. I mean if your going to die you might as well have some fun before you go. 

>>671593
Look what you did!

Girl commits suicide after being molested:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Girl-commits-suicide-after-molestation/articleshow/11940708.cms

>>671594
I can't access the link,but if it was a girl from India I can see why she killed herself,considering all of the shit that goes on there. By the way I am not a pedophile anymore,so I figured I might as well stop calling myself pedo wolf and use the name of my favorite god (I have a lot in common with him).

It's sad knowing that the true meaning of the word pedophile (child lover) has been destroyed by society. Still it can't be helped I guess. Anyways sex isnt even the main reason why I want to be around little girls. They are just so beautiful,cute,sweet and just down right adorable! Lg's are like sweeter than life itself,they are sort of like a drug to me...everytime I'm around one it feels as if all of the negative things in my life just vanish. What sucks though is I feel so dead inside when I dont get to be around one. It feels as if a large part of your soul is missing.

I may be sexually attracted to lg's,but I honestly don't understand why someone would want to make them into a sex toy and fuck the hell out of them. Yet thats another reason why I should change my name,people automatically assume I lust after them all of the time. People that pimp out children or use them as sex toys are sick pieces of shit that deserve to die a slow painful death. 

Anyways I have no desire to debate anymore. From now on I am mainly going to use this board to talk to rape victims and try to understand why they get traumatized from being raped. I mean don't get me wrong I think rape is bad,but I don't see why people get fucked up for life after being raped only once or twice. 

>>671606
I feel exactly the same way you do about lolis. I want to build a giant golden shrine to them, go out into the woods and look for the biggest angriest mother grizzly bear I can find, fight it to death with my bare hands, then drag it back to the shrine and set it on fire as a sacrifice. My point is, I really really love lolis....I forgot where I was going with this.
To answer your question, what makes rape much more traumatizing than it needs to be is the way our puritanical society treats sex, as the dirty forbidden root of everything that is evil in the world. Even consensual sex is still considered an abomination in most of the world unless it is between a married man and woman in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation, so naturally the idea of any form of non-consensual sex being the worst thing on the planet is bombarded into our minds from the day we are born. So, that's really all you need to know isn't it? I don't know why you would want to hear more from rape victims, I mean hearing about an adult woman being raped doesn't bother me, I don't like it or anything but bad shit happens you know? But hearing about lolis being molested or really anything bad happening to them at all makes me physically sick. I'd rather shut the whole thing out of my mind and play videogames to forget about it. I don't think there is anything more I need to know on the subject, I just want to believe that molestation is always a bad thing that traumatizes them for life always, I don't want to start getting the idea that it would be ok for me to do it.

Like Evolution is Suicide on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Evolution-is-Suicide/312453755470916

>>671619
>>I don't think there is anything more I need to know on the subject, I just want to believe that molestation is always a bad thing that traumatizes them for life always, I don't want to start getting the idea that it would be ok for me to do it.

You sound like a nice guy, that´s why the sound of repression in your words tells me that you are not just talking about forced rape here, right?

You know, it´s amazing to see how many people totally don´t consider to distinguish between forced and consensual child abuse (assumed the latter really is always abusive), although these are still two totally different things for a child. Even many pedos don´t distinguish between it. It´s sad. The society is so brainwashed that it seems to be impossible for many people to imagine that children are anything else but asexual beings with the IQ of a pineapple. It´s just sad.

I bet many lawmakers have the same attitude as you when it comes to repressing the thought that maybe they are wrong and child-adult sex really isn´t always that bad. Others react to it deridingly like kings and priests when Galileo Galilei tried to spread the truth that it´s not the sun which orbits around the earth but the other way around.

Assumed you are really talking about consensual child-adult sex here, then I have to say that you are a fool to believe that it´s always wrong, let alone traumatizing children for life. If you weren´t talking about consensual sex, then I think you (especially as a pedo) should pay more attention on how you express yourself on this subject, since according to our law child-adult sex ostensibly always is molestation.

I would love to read some of the lawmakers and psychiatrists minds who decided that every child who had sex with an adult is an abused child and every pedophile is a sick pervert. Must be not easy for some of them to sleep right at night, when their judgements are merely based on their ignorant egos and the 5% who get caught or speak out - a very unrepresentative group.

But I guess, the best answer for them regarding this is still simply more repression and brainwash, right?

>>671625
In fact, I was referring to both forcible rape and whatever the fuck it is that you would consider consensual sex with a child. Maybe I would be more inclined to believe you if I have ever heard of a single person who had any sort of sexual contact with anyone at a young age and didn't turn out wildly fucked up.
Even if you were careless and selfish enough to roll the dice and hope you don't create a future crack whore, I bet you sure as fuck don't want to go to prison, especially for that, and there's no way you can be sure you will never get caught. So basically, you are risking your life AND theirs over your own selfishness.
But hey, what the fuck would I know? I'm just some brainwashed idiot, but clearly your intentions are pure and your desperate excuses are conceived primarily with the well-being of children in mind, and not just motivated entirely by whichever direction your dick points you in.

>>671626
>>Maybe I would be more inclined to believe you if I have ever heard of a single person who had any sort of sexual contact with anyone at a young age and didn't turn out wildly fucked up.
Since the society only knows pedophiles as child molsters, it´s no wonder to not hear about such cases often. Apart from this, your words already sound so biased, this also wouldn´t change your point of view, anymore. You would probably don´t believe this person and label him or her as a lying pedophile. Just like you´d label me as a liar who thinks with his dick when I´d tell you I´ve already heard about many people who didn´t get harmed by it.

Apart from this, if you really never heard of anyone who didn´t get harmed by it, or if, then only because of society´s brainwash, then you really should study more on this subject, if it isn´t too much for you. Maybe you are just looking in the wrong places and only go with the mainstream?

Look, I really didn´t want to sound rude, but I just can´t understand pedos like you. There are many evidences out there which show how fucking stupid and irrational the lawmakers and psychiatrists are when it comes to pedophilia and the sexuality of children. And I for one also already talked personal with the one or other girl who had sex as child with an adult and didn´t regret it.

But hey what do I know? I´m just a disingenuous pervert who tries to advocate child molestation, so I can be able to get myself the next kiddy legally, right?

>>671627
>>ever heard of a single person who had any sort of sexual contact with anyone at a young age and didn't turn out wildly fucked up
>>with anyone
Apart from this, if you really belief that it´s even harmful for minors (let´s stop calling 17 year olds children, shall we?) to have consensual sex with other minors, then I fear I have to say, that there really is no help for you anymore.

Minor-minor sex is really illegal in many places. I still can´t believe this. It still fits perfectly to this society and it´s views about pedophilia though. Accusing children as sex offenders for consensual sex between children, while at the same time portraying them as asexual and completely innocent beings. What a fucked up world we are living in!

>>671627
I know you don't understand pedos like me, because pedos like me actually care about children, we don't just think of them as sex toys made for our amusement like you do. I don't expect you to have the mental capacity to comprehend that concept any more than I would expect you to put aside your raging narcissism to accept the possibility that maybe every expert on the subject might collectively know better than you do. Every psychologist on the planet can agree that sex is not healthy for children, so call me a brainwashed nutjob, but I think I'll side with them over some horny bitter teenager.
What I want even more than to satisfy my urges is for every little girl to stay pure and innocent for as long as possible, but again, that's because I actually care about them, so I don't expect you to understand that.
If you cared about kids even a little bit, you would not be so willing to risk ruining some girl's life on the overwhelmingly off chance that she might not turn out so screwed up. Instead, you convince yourself that, even though your opinions are nothing more than a series of enormous logical leaps desperately attempting to justify giving in to your urges, it happens to be everyone else in the world who is biased against you and not the other way around.
Again, let me make that as clear as possible: even though you want to have sex with kids, you think your opinion on the subject of whether or not it is acceptable to do so is completely objective and trustworthy, while everyone else is biased even though they have nothing to gain from it. If your narcissism hadn't completely dissolved your sense of irony, you would find that as hilarious as I do.
Anyway, I'm to saying that the majority is always right, because in fact, even if YOU were the majority, I would still be calling you out on your ridiculous bullshit, because your whole case is built around finding excuses for satisfying your sexual urges, which is too convenient to be objective. That fact would be suspicious enough on it's own, if you ignored the fact that your point of view relies entirely on the statistical evidence of 2 or 3 people you know and the complete dismissal of anything you don't like on the grounds of paranoid conspiracies about society plotting against you.
So I doubt my argument was simplistic enough for your bias-crippled mind to fully process, but I doubt it matters anyway, you are too blind and self-centered to understand the point of view of a more evolved and mature mind. I should know, I used to be like you, an ignorant horny teenager, looking for excuses to do whatever I wanted, blaming the media for convincing people that my opinion was wrong. But I was just a dumb arrogant teenage prick, and I grew out of it, you will too....hopefully.

>>671629 Why so agressive?

>>pedos like me actually care about children, we don't just think of them as sex toys made for our amusement like you do.
Why do you think I see them as sex toys, just because I have more knowledge about pedophilia than you?

>Every psychologist on the planet can agree that sex is not healthy for children,
Wrong. If you had any idea about pedophilia, you´d know that there are many psychologists who agree that the society actually has a pretty warped point of view about pedophilia.

"As Judith Herman, a psychologist who works with abused children at the Victims of Violence clinic in Boston told The Daily Beast in an e-mail: “Truthfully, I don't think the psychiatric profession has much of a clue about pedophiles. Most studies are based on…the 5 percent who get caught—a very unrepresentative group.” In other words, most pedophilia research subjects are outliers."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/06/what-science-reveals-about-pedophilia.html

>>What I want even more than to satisfy my urges is for every little girl to stay pure and innocent for as long as possible,
Childhood innocence is not a state of asexuality that can be "stolen". This argument relies on the vague assumption that sex automatically leads to complicated emotional reactions in the first place. It is also based on the assertion that "innocence" and "purity" are somehow the opposites of sexual experience, assuming that sex cannot be "pure" or "innocent". These are beliefs, and have no grounding in objective reality. Similar beliefs in relation to women have already been thoroughly discredited to the point of ridicule.

>>while everyone else is biased even though they have nothing to gain from it. If your narcissism hadn't completely dissolved your sense of irony, you would find that as hilarious as I do.
Actually, there are many people who could gain something from it. Moral crusading and policing are big business. If you were going to earn money that way, you would want to make the scope of the targeted as broad as possible. The more mentally ill pedophiles and abused children there are, the more money psychiatrists can make for example. Apart from this, why should anyone need something to gain from it anyway? Consider for example the case of homosexuality. Not long ago gay sex also was illegal although there was no reason for it. Consider the change in attitudes towards subjects such as race relations, or gender roles for example. Fact is, the majority always oppressed minorities and even if these groups are legally free nowadays, racism and hate against gays or women or whatever is still alive. If you can´t see this then you really need to research some history. But hey, what do I know? If enough people say something is (or isn't) right, it must be true. I mean, would a whole society lie to you?

Anyway, it makes no sense to talk to people like you anyway. All you can expect from this is to get marked as a sick pervert. But in case you wish to educate yourself a bit more on the subject, i recommend you to rather search for infos on sites like newgon.com. Perhaps this could change your mind a little bit. If you search on wiki or just listen to the news, there you really only get the 5% who get caught and those who hate pedos without any reason at all.

But whatever...have a nice day fellow pedo! Inb4Iain´tevenmad.jpg

>>671630
Thinking that a psychiatrist pointing out how ignorant people are on the subject of pedophiles is the same as all psychiatrists recommending having sex with children only further proves that your opinions can't be objective or trustworthy at all. Even if you did know how statistics work, which apparently you don't, you are still using them wrong because you aren't even trying to prove the points you are making! Either you don't know what statistics are or you can't count higher than 3, so let me put this in terms even your primitive reptilian brain can understand: 1 person who you think is not screwed up and a psychologist saying something unrelated to the subject amounts to...1 person. That is not a statistic, that does not prove anything. I can name one person who fell from a tall building and survived, is that enough of a reason to go around pushing people off tall buildings if I felt like it? Not to a healthy minded individual, no, that would make me a selfish thoughtless asswipe with no regard for others.
Now, I know what you're thinking, this would be the perfect opportunity to rant about something unrelated under the guise that I am making a point I did not, so let me make something clear, I never said that all pedophiles are bad people or that they are all rapists. It should be obvious by now that I am one so that wouldn't make sense, you are just so focused on defending your selfish desires that you are even fighting me on arguments I never made. I am only saying that pedos like you are terrible people. You put so much time and effort into defending the act of violating children while fighting someone who cares about them, if you weren't a complete piece of shit you wouldn't have cared enough to keep it up this long, did you never think about how wrong that makes you look? Couldn't you at least make one attempt to make it look like you cared about what is best for children and not just what is best for your cock? Just one weak effort? Saying that kids are not pure or innocent doesn't count, it just makes you sound like a serial killer who says "that bitch deserved it for looking like my mom!".
You can't possibly be dumb enough to think little girls can get anything out of being prodded with your smelly dong, yet that is the driving force behind your argument. Simply thinking there is a statistically improbable possibility that something might not harm someone is not enough of a reason to think you are the righteous one here. It couldn't be more obvious that you don't give a flying fuck about them, and every reply you post further proves it. I can't tell if you realize you don't care about anyone but yourself or if you simply can't understand what caring about other people is. Ironically, if you just admitted that you are a sociopath, that would be a much better excuse for your thoughtless attitude than any pathetic bullshit "evidence" you could ever come up with. Yet I fear explaining all this to you is about as productive as trying to tell a schizophrenic that their face is not on fire.
But it's only temporary, when you are older and smarter and stop thinking purely with your penis, you will realize that your desperate attempts to find excuses for molesting kids only fooled yourself.

>>671632
Like I said, talking to brainwashed dumbfucks like you doesn´t make any sense. All you can expect is hysteria and cursing. Your gibberish and bad sentence structure kept me from even reading what you wrote. I´m not in the mood to argue here alone with some poor retard like you, so obviously I couldn´t care less what you believe. All I can say is that brainwashed fake pedos like are even more worse than antis.

>>671633
Your childish name-calling, inability to process intelligent arguments, and intense aversion to anyone with a conscience who knows right from wrong further proves what an immature sociopath you are. Don't feel ashamed for running away from a losing battle, you never stood a chance from the start.
Some day, when you are out of high school, this will all make sense. Until then, you are too dense with ignorance and blinded by self-obsession to realize that your dick is not a gift from god to little girls everywhere.

>>671630
"The more mentally ill pedophiles and abused children there are, the more money psychiatrists can make for example. " I never thought of it like that,but that makes sense and I agree with this. I am not attacking you or anything,but judging by your other posts I would say that this topic pisses you off and if that's true,I honestly feel the same way about this topic. I just hate how people can take a completely HARMLESS situation and turn it into something harmful,but even if sexual contact between an adult and child is technically harmless it still doesn't change the fact that a child could still get harmed from it thanks to the social stigma thats attached to it. For me it's like a lose/lose situation,I mean if I were to have sex with a loli (I like loli more than lg.) and if she got scarred from it I could never live with myself. Now let's say if there was a way I could be 100% sure that a certain child would'nt get scarred from having sex with an adult,hell I would just go for it without a second thought. I mean as long as the child is fine afterwards I would be fine with it and I wouldn't even care if I got arrested for it. Hell I don't even care if I die because of it,as long as the child is fine afterwards I WIN regardless of what happens to me.


For now I don't think adult-child sex should be legal do to the consent issue,but I think it's wrong to say that all sexual contact between an adult and child is abusive. I am trying to find a middle path where adult-child sex isnt labeled as abuse,but at the same time children cant fully consent to sex. According to all of the medical evidence I have obtained over the years I think it's safe to say that it is mostly society's reaction towards kids having sex with adults that causes most of the scarring vs the act itself. I think fate just dealt us a bad hand though,even all of the bullshit that society feeds children I think it would be a challenge to work your way around it. It all just seems like a lose/lose situation.

I have gotten to the point to where I hate the world with every fiber of my being now. I don't know what to believe in anymore...it's as if fate put a curse on us or something. Damn I had a point here,but now I forgot what I was trying to say. I don't have a problem with the guy you are going back and forth with,I understand where he is coming from. Granted I might not fully agree with him,but I understand why he doesn't want to act on his urges. As for me I am just mad at the whole situation,I could act on my urges,but that "what if?" thought keeps popping up in my head. To me loli's are the most precious human beings on the planet,lol to me they are like the light of the world and watching one suffer just eats away at my soul. If a loli got hurt because of me I think I would go completely insane,but I'm still mad about how adult-child sex is harmless,but it still can't be allowed because mankind is a selfish piece of shit. I think I will just stop right there, thinking about this makes me physically ill. I'm sure you can relate to what I am saying though. 

>>671635
Trying to reason with that guy is pointless, he clearly doesn't have a conscience, didn't you notice? To you and I, it's obvious that it's not worth running the risk of ruining some kid's life, but he doesn't give a shit about that, otherwise he would have at least once acknowledged the fact that there is a risk, and a big one at that.
I can't imagine what points you would disagree with me on, because I have agreed with every single word you've said so far, especially the part about how great and perfect lolis are. If anything, I find it mildly insulting that you refer to them as humans, because humans are weak pathetic little creatures and lolis are a much higher form of life than anything else, so clearly they are gods. But seriously, thanks for not making all pedos look bad like that insufferable douche.

>>671635
>psychiatrists make money out of pedophilia
>I never thought of it like that,but that makes sense and I agree with this.

I once debated with a psychiatrist on 4chan about pedophilia... Man, I can´t put it in words how much psychiatrists can hate pedophiles... Seriously, I felt approximately like a Jew in front of Hitler... I already knew this feeling from talking with other antis... or even other pedos... But talking with a psychiatrist as a pedophile was still something different...

After this experience I began to think about this, and yea, it really makes sense...

How can psychiatrists be allowed to have the power to diagnose, if pedophilia is a mental illness or a sexual orientation, if they are the same group who make money from "curing" "sick" pedophiles?

How can child and adolescent psychiatrists be allowed to diagnose, if child-adult sex is harmful for a child, if they are the same group who make money from "curing" "abused" children?

This absolutely doesn´t make any sense!

>>671642
HAHAHA!! A psychiatrist on 4chan?? Please don't tell me you actually believed that...

>>671643

1/10

Well you never can say for sure, but he absolutely had no reason to invent this idea. Plus, he sounded like a very irrational but well educated person who really seemed to be interested in a serious debate.

>>671644
>interested in serious debate
>on 4chan

You are the stupidest person in the world. 2 bad you are too stupid to realize that you should kill yourself, and also too stupid to even figure out how to kill yourself.

Oh well, enjoy living through a long, shitty life.

MFW your life continues to get exponetially worse as you continue to live.

>>671639
I don't know,Anonymphous probably cares about a child's well being,he is probably just mad about our tragic situation (it really is tragic). I mean I understand that there are problems with the consent issue,but it pisses me off when people assume that adult-child sex is always rape and it's the worst form of evil out there,and it's pretty bad when satanists swear up and down that even the devil himself is disgusted with pedophiles that act on their urges lol. Anyways I understand that there is a risk involved when it comes to having sex with kids,but I still have sympathy for some pedos that act on their urges,especially when adult-child sex is technically harmless. The risk holds me back though.

I disagree with you on at least one thing such as "Every psychologist on the planet can agree that sex is not healthy for children," this is not true,I mean there are a few groups of psychologists that think sex between an adult and child is always traumatizing,but there are also a few out there that disagree with them on this. Take Susan A. Clancy for example,she is a psychologist that has done hardcore research on adult-child sex and she swears up and down that in most cases it's not the sexual act between the adult and child that causes the scarring,it is the aftermath that ruins the child's life (aka it is society's fault). She also wrote a book on this subject titled " The trauma myth", I have read parts of her book online,but I am going to buy it next time I go to Barnes&Noble. There are also a few doctors that agree that adult-child sex is harmless in some cases. One of these famous doctors is Bruce Rind,he has an excellent reputation,but sadly many people didn't even want to read his book because he seemed to be defending the idea that adult-child sex is ok. One doctor did catch my attention though,his name is Richard Green and he was involved in taking homosexuality off of the dsm. A lot of what doctors and psychologists know about homosexuals probably wouldn't have even been discovered if it wasnt for doctors like Green. Well Green also thinks that pedophilia is a natural sexual oriention and he is in favor of removing pedophilia from the dsm,but he doesn't think that adult-child sex should be legalized. About a month ago I found out that he wrote a book on adult-child sex and it explains how kids don't really get scarred from having sex with an adult,I think the book is called " Human sexuality and the law" I was going to buy it,but I am going to wait a while because the cheapest price for that book seems to be $75! Still thanks to Green's articles I learned a lot about the history of pedophilia and his work proves that pedophiles were accepted at one point in time and adult-child sex wasn't even seen as harmful back then,but rather a lot of good actually came from it (no joke!). 

I'm the kind of guy that always looks for the "perfect" answer to some questions that many people don't even bother to think about. Ever since I was 10 years old I always wondered why people get scarred from rape,and when I say rape I mean the whole damn thing such as child molestation,forced rape etc. Judging by all of the information from the research I have done on the subject I would say that it is the social stigma to rape that hurts people vs the act itself,but I just want to make sure that I am 100% accurate on this topic,so that's why I want to talk to rape victims. 

LOL I take back what I said about loli's.They truly are better than humans,they are more like angels or goddesses! They are just so cute and sweet,basically they are just down right adorable! They are like perfect in every way,I just love everything about them. I love how simple they can be,I mean being around them takes my mind off of all the shit that goes on in the world. I also love how they look up to you and admire you,that just gives me more motivation to be a better person. Above all else I just love it when a loli gives me a hug out of love and affection,whenever a loli hugs me it just melts my heart and it feels like I have died and gone to heaven! 

I was going to say something else,but I forgot...I might bring it up next time. LOL it's not even late,but for some reason I am VERY sleepy! 

>>671642
"Man, I can´t put it in words how much psychiatrists can hate pedophiles..." Oh I know they hate pedophiles (well not all of them,but the majority of us are hated). What really blows my mind is how freekin closed minded they are on the whole subject concerning pedophilia! I'm not joking either,even psychologists will admit that pedophilia is sort of a taboo topic and some psychologists and psychiatrists are normally frowned on by others if they study this topic for a long period of time. 

I used to wonder if pedophilia was truly an illness or not,but now I think pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation. I mean let's face it, this pedo witch hunt has gone on for several decades and mental health professionals STILL DONT KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT PEDOPHILIA. I mean you would think by now that doctors would be able to fully prove that pedophilia is an illness,but most doctors admit that they haven't really proven that pedophilia is an illness or abnormality in the brain. Not to mention the fact that this entire subject lacks research. Also did you know that there hasnt really been that much genetic tests done on pedophiles? Hell even some doctors will admit that many other doctors don't even want to study this topic,they are just simply disgusted with pedophilia. 

I also find it interesting how the definition of pedophilia seems to change every decade or so. LOL back around the 1940's many mental health professionals said that pedophiles were sociopathic killers and now look at how much the definition of pedophilia has changed. There are also some doctors that are in favor of changing the definition of pedophilia once again,doctors are now starting to admit that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and they want it to be listed as a sexual orientation (even the doctors that think that pedophilia is an illness agree with this).  So if you consider how doctors will admit that they really don't want to do more research on pedophilia I think it's safe to say that there is nothing wrong with us. 

Your theory makes sense though. I think the U.S. government knows that pedophilia is a sexual orientation,but thanks to the consent issue we can't be accepted until there is a solution to this problem. So since fate dealt us a bad hand we make good scapegoats and pedophiles and traumatized victims are used to make one hell of a profit. Not to mention the fact that the media makes a fortune off of spreading lies about pedophiles. Greed may very well be a big motive for this pedo witch hunt. 

I mean I wouldn't be surprised if psychiatrists were willing to allow this trauma to continue considering the fact that they would lose a lot of $$$ if there were less traumatized victims. It's kind of like cancer, I don't think our government would ever allow a cure for cancer to exist because corporations would lose billions of dollars if a cure was out there. I think there could be better treatments for cancer patients in the future,but a cure is out of the question. 

Still the concept of pedophilia isn't that complex until you put the consent issue in it,that's when things start to get complicated. There was more I wanted to say concerning this topic...,but now I am getting very sleepy,so its probably best if I stop right here. 

>>671643
You never know. I think it's 50/50 he was either trolled or he really did talk to a psychiatrist. I wouldn't be surprised if some mental health "professionals" wanted to go on 4 chan and try to find some pedophiles,I mean hell I think an online pedo would be more honest vs a pedo that they work with in real life. Still you wouldn't really know if you were being trolled though. It is true that many psychiatrists hate pedos. Hell it's gotten to the point to where some pedos get punished for seeking help. There is a law that requires a psychiatrist to report a pedophile if there are children that live with or next door to him (this goes for all pedos it doesn't matter if they obey the law or break the law). It's all just fucked up.

>>671654
If he gives even the slightest fuck about anyone but himself, he sure does a great job at hiding it. I fully agree that the way people hate on pedos is irrational and unfair, but people like Anonymphous are the reason, they make us all look bad. Not to say that people wouldn't hate us regardless, but he still makes it worse.
Although I get your point, I really couldn't give less of a shit if any child molester gets raped and beaten to death in prison regardless of how "consensual" his crimes were, because if I have to hold back, why the fuck doesn't he? What makes him special or better than me? Regardless of whether consent is possible or not, what is certainly not possible is being sure that what you are doing will have no negative consequences, so doing it anyway makes you a complete asshole, and no matter what happens to those guys, no matter how much they suffer, it's not enough in my opinion. You can discount about 20-30% of that to raging envy though.
Also, if you think that I think the act of the sex itself is always the traumatizing part, I suggest you reread >>671619
I posted that, so obviously I agree that the way society reacts to the act can be the main or only cause of the trauma in many cases. Although, I still feel the need to point out that naming a few doctors or psychologists who don't think sex with children is harmful strongly reminds me of people who name "scientists" who don't agree with evolution as proof that evolution is not real, it never convinces anyone. But saying things like that is probably the reason you think we disagree with each other even when I've made the same points you have earlier, I'm just warning you that the whole name-dropping tactic makes for a very weak argument.
Even though I have enough logic and common sense to back up my point of view, I will admit that the main reason I think there is no excuse for sex with children is because I can't imagine any man in the world who is good enough for any loli. Even if there was a possibility to be sure that they won't be traumatized, the next step to prove it is acceptable would be to find anyone who is perfect enough to earn the privilege of having sex with a loli, and that is even more impossible than the first step. As long as lolis are gods and we are just pathetic little humans, there is no point in arguing over things like the meaning of consent or whatever. You seem to feel the exact same way about lolis as I do, so there is no way you could possibly think you can ever be good enough for them. No offense of coarse, because the same applies to literally everyone, although we are probably more worthy than most for appreciating them the way they deserve.
As far as all forms of rape, again, I explained all that in >>671619 and it was pretty much exactly what you just said. So we still pretty much agree on everything, especially the parts about all the reasons why lolis are perfect. However, I happen to be extremely unlucky so I pretty much never get to spend any time with lolis, and naturally I get insanely jealous of people who do. But I tolerate it, I just play enough videogames and jerk off enough to keep my mind occupied and distract me from how miserable I feel every second a loli is not nearby.

>>671657
I guess we sort of agree on almost everything. The last time I sent you a post I was very tired and my reading comprehension sucks when I'm tired,so I missed what you said earlier on adult-child sex etc.  For now my Internet signal sucks,so I usually don't go on the web until its late,but now I found a spot where I can access the web anytime I want so it all worked out in the end. 

As far as my sympathy goes for child molesters,I only have sympathy for preferential child molesters (pedos that have sex with children) and that's only when they don't force or physically harm a child with sex. However I have NO sympathy for situational child molesters (an adult that is not a pedophile,but has sex with children.),I think situational offenders are pathetic! Honestly it blows my mind to the point of disbelief when you consider the fact that MOST child molesters are heterosexuals instead of pedophiles! I mean WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK MAN!!!??? I mean pedos are sexually attracted to kids,but most of us don't act on our urges because we don't want kids to get hurt,yet many heterosexuals are willing to have sex with kids even though they are not physically attracted to them! I'm sorry,but I think that is just fucking pathetic and that just further proves how weak minded heterosexuals are. I mean it's like " Oh I guess women don't find me attractive so I guess I am going to have sex with this lg even though I think women are more attractive",FUCKING PATHETIC!!! I will just stop here on this topic because I can go on and on about how much I hate situational child molesters,you know what I think the solution to the consent issue concerning adult-child sex would be easy to solve if we could just take the situational offenders out of the picture. 

LOL I do agree that many men are not worthy enough to have sex with a loli,but I have met a few loli's that think that Johny Depp and Chris Angel are as hot as hell so I guess as long as the loli is really attracted to them they are somewhat worthy. After all if I were gay I would be all over Johny,so he may be the worthy one lol. Anyways I understand what your  getting at so I guess I have nothing else to say on this matter. 

As far as the medical research is concerned,at this point in time I think it's impossible to find out about pedophilia being an illness or a natural sexual orientation. I mean this is just a taboo topic and for the time being doctors aren't willing to do enough research on the subject to come up with a proper diagnosis. There is just so much conflict on this subject. 

Anyways thank god for video games! Anime and video games give me something to live for. Considering the fact that I can't be around loli's I would go completely insane if I didn't have anime and video games in my life. I don't know,hopefully there is a solution to this pedo witch hunt and as long as I am alive I will continue to search for the answer. Only time will tell.

>>671644
Hey Anonymphous I just want to let you know that the "other place" is back. 

I guess I am done debating,so I will just post info on pedophilia if anybody is interested. I want to write about my theory's in /con/. If pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation I think I found out why nature created us and I also think I know why fate dealt us such a bad hand and how it all came to be. By the way I think I will just change my name back to pedo wolf. I wanted to change my name because the word pedophile has just been damaged beyond repair,but hell I sort of have fans now and people are starting to make pedo wolf meme's!  LOL I never thought people would actually make a meme of me,so I am just going to stick with the name pedo wolf,I would hate to throw that away. :)

>>671667
Yep, pretty much hit the nail on the head there. I always try to point out that at least half of all child molesters are NOT pedophiles, but people don't want to accept that because pedophiles serve as scapegoats for everything that is wrong with the world. Society used to be able to blame everything on women, gays, and minorities so they would never have to take responsibility for any problems while they stroked their raging ego-boners, but now that they had to give up racism and sexism and homophobia (except for republicans) the only people they have left to dump everything on is us, and dump they did. Therefore there is no way people will ever acknowledge the fact that there are any child molesters who are not pedophiles, let alone half of them, because that would be one less level of separation between them, the infallible norms, and us, the scum of the earth.
I would never accuse you of being sympathetic to full on child rapists, but my point was that, no matter how consensual it may be, I can't feel sorry for anyone who had sex with a child no matter what happens to them, because it's pretty much impossible to feel sorry for someone who got to do what I can only dream about. It would be like some poor starving homeless man feeling sorry for a billionaire, even if that billionaire got raped in prison, still a pretty fair tradeoff in the eyes of the homeless man.
As for Jonny Depp, I guess I'll give you that one, but I still can't say that even he would deserve to have sex with a loli because he's already got enough going on for him, I feel like that would just be unfair for the rest of us. I guess if there is anyone who could possibly be considered good enough, chances are they already have everything.
I believe pedophilia is natural, in the sense that it exists in nature, what exactly is your definition of "natural" if not that? I have a theory that pedophilia and homosexuality are evolutionary tactics, a way that nature is attempting to control the human population. The more there are of us, the less people there are contributing to overpopulation, which is the root of almost every problem in the world. In a way, it means we are more evolved than norms. Not only that, I have a theory that pedophilia is nothing more than the lack of a reproductive urge in the brain, but that would take too long to explain. In a nutshell, it means that the only difference between pedophiles and everyone else is that we don't have the mechanism in our brains that prevents us from being attracted to people we can't reproduce with, which would mean that we are not specifically attracted to children, we just have a completely objective blanket sense of attraction, and since lolis are so vastly superior to everything else, nothing less than lolis is good enough. So it's not that we find adult women unattractive, we just can't help but compare them to lolis, and everything is hideous when compared to lolis. That's just a theory of mine anyway. I have several more solid and much more complicated theories that prove lolis are objectively more attractive than adult women, but they all take too long to explain.

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>>671669
"I can't feel sorry for anyone who had sex with a child no matter what happens to them, because it's pretty much impossible to feel sorry for someone who got to do what I can only dream about." That makes sense,sometimes I am jealous of them too.  Also I don't think I could ever feel sorry for a billionaire,because they pretty much have everything under the sun and even if they were to have a tragic ending,at least they got to live a life that most people can only dream about. For the most part I think almost everyone can control their own fate to some extent,but at the same time fate deals us all a certain hand and some hands are better than others. That might not seem fair,but that's just life. When it comes to pedophiles,I don't think there is anything wrong with us,I think fate just dealt us a bad hand. 

I like your theory,but I have a few theory's of my own. Your theory is a good possibility though. When I say "I think pedophilia is natural" what I mean is I think pedophilia exists in nature or its a part of evolution. I don't think there is anything wrong with us. I just think most of the world isn't ready for us yet...we simply lack the wisdom to understand pedophilia and we still don't know how to fit our kind into society without it being harmful to children. Now I'm not saying that pedophiles are harmful to children,Im just saying fate screwed us over. 

LOL I'm jealous of Johny Depp because loli's just love him,but I agree I dont think it would be fair to everybody else if he got to have sex with loli's. Still not all loli's are attracted to the same type of person,so basically a loli can be attracted to any type of guy. Still I think loli's desire love and affection more than anything else though.

I'm honestly disgusting with this whole pedo witch hunt though. I mean I understand that there is a big problem with the consent issue,but I think society is making the problem worse. The whole thing makes me sick...it just blows my mind how the media is allowed to demonize us. Hell I honestly think the government persuades the media to lie about us and get their viewers to think that we are sex crazed perverts that are out to hurt kids. Its sad,this pedo witch hunt just proves that mankind cannot function properly without a scapegoat and now we are it. Mankind is just a selfish piece of shit...there is nothing wrong with us and there isn't a cure for pedophilia,only because there is nothing to cure! Fuck it all I am what I am and if the rest of the world hates us then to hell with the world. Its not our fault that people are closed minded on the subject. 

Anyways I am going to write about some of my theory's in /con/ if anybody is interested. I just had a shocking revelation not too long ago and I think I finally know how this "curse" began,and I have to say it was hard for me to believe at first. I was going to talk about my theory's sooner,but I had to go back to rehab (I got hit by a vehicle not too long ago) and I had to spend some time there,but I am a lot stronger now so all is good. By the way I am changing my name back to pedo wolf (notice the trip code) I think pedo wolf is a cool name and others seem to like it,so I'm sticking with my old name. 

>>671706
Some spot on points made, as usual. You remind me of myself when I was a teenager, not to say you are immature or anything, just that the world hasn't yet beat you down to the point that you no longer care that society hates you. I'm not some bitter old man or anything, I'm only 22, so if you are around 17-18 as I suspect, it won't be long before life beats the defiance and pride out of you too.

>>671707
If I repeated any of my other posts it's because I am tired and I didn't mean to repeat myself (if I did).  I guess I just have a strong will and one hell of a fighting spirit, whenever something bothers me I try to do something about it. I know pedo debates can be a big waste of time,depending on who you are talking to...,but the thing is little girls are my whole world. 

When it comes to the opposite sex all I think about is loli's. Sometimes all I can think about...,all I really want is to be able to spend some time with a loli,even if it's just for a little while. Long story short for as long as I can remember I have always been able to spend time with a little girl. Even in my early 20's I was able to have some type of relationship with a loli. The sad thing is I didn't even know how lucky I was until I turned 23. Once I turned 23 I started to live an average pedo life,it's like I couldn't even be around loli's anymore. I never realized how hard you have to work just to be able to spend a little bit of time with a loli. I hate it,I just feel so dead inside...and I hate how people blindly assume that we just see kids as sex objects and nothing more. Both you and I know that anti-pedos are full of shit when they tell us we see kids as sex objects. 

I guess deep down I join pedo debates mainly because it helps me cope with my unfulfilling life. Hell sometimes it's the only thing that seems to keep me sane,debating just allows me to vent and piss off anti-pedos. By the way I am 25, I have a lot enthusiasm for my age and I like to drag things out sometimes. It's just the way I am. Talking about this subject online is like an addiction to me,even if it seems pointless sometimes it still feels like I am doing something about the problem. 

Not trying to sound negative or anything,but if there is no way I can be around loli's then I don't see the point of living,but fighting online seems to help me deal with it,lol I didn't even realize that until 4 months ago. 

>>671708
Damn, you're older than me? I didn't expect that. Maybe you have more life in you because you've had the fortune to spend time with lolis all these years and I never had shit. Either way, you haven't spent as much time isolated as I have, so there's a good chance that you will end up like me in a few years, lifeless and apathetic. It's only been 2 years for you, and it took a little more than 2 years to completely break me down, so it could be coming for you.
I used to enjoy debating too, but when you stop caring it's hard to keep investing in arguments. Now it's only fun at first, after that I immediately get bored and I dread having to respond, but I do anyway. Maybe your love of debating is a legitimate hobby and it won't go away, if so then keep it up, hobbies are the most important thing a pedo can have in life. Besides, it's good to have people out there actively fighting for us, rather than passively making us look good like I do, or in the case of Anonymphous, actively making us look like fucking dicks.
However, based on this pattern of how much you and I are alike, the next step in your life is a long miserable period of extreme desperation where you will have to go through dangerous and often painful methods to control your urges, but that will slowly even out until you reach an enlightened state of pure apathy where you no longer care about how pointless and empty your life is.
But then again, that's just me, and I've always been pretty apathetic. Maybe your way of coping is to eternally fight for your freedom and respect among society, where my way of coping is to take comfort in the simplicity and complete lack of pressure due to giving up on life. It's aggression vs pacifism, one method is more immediate but also costlier, while the other is more effective but requires much more discipline. Or maybe I am over-analyzing the situation. I tend to do that.

>>671709
Well as things are right now,it feels like things are already going downhill for me. I mean I just feel like a part of my soul is missing,it sucks living a life of emptiness. Don't get wrong though,I am very grateful for having a life where I could be around loli's almost anytime I desired,but once that was taken away from me I finally realized why other pedos go to great lengths just to be around kids. I never realized that pedo's had to work so hard just to be able to spend a short amount of time with a loli. It's only been two years since I was able to have some type of relationship with a loli,but I swear it feels like a lifetime to me. I'm still not used to it to be honest and sometimes I just feel so DEAD inside.

Like I said before,debating is a way for me to cope and I still can't help,but feel pure hate and disgust towards anti-pedos so it also allows me to let off some steam. I have plenty of hobbies to keep myself sane,and your right hobbies are VERY important for a pedo.

So far I haven't tried to go to dangerous lengths to deal with my urges,but I'm not going lie about the fact that I have considered suicide a few times. Regardless of how much my urges may get to me sometimes,there is no way in hell I am seeking " help" or "therapy",especially after all shit I learned about it a few months ago! Let's just say that I am disgusted with the very thought of "therapy" to the point to where it makes me physically ill. You should do some research on how pedophiles get treated when they seek help,IT MAKES ME SICK! 

Who knows maybe I will just go to a pure state of apathy. I used to do that back when I was 17 years old. Anytime something bothered me I found a way to pretty much shut off most of my emotions. As I got older I sort lost that ability, I guess I just got tired of giving up.  Still if something really bothers me my mind eventually finds a way to deal with it. Anyways after learning your age I sort feel old now...time just goes by way too fast! Also I too intend to over think things, actually I think I do way too much of that lol!

>>671725
Keep in mind that I don't have a regular PC yet,and for now the only way I can access the web is through my new iPhone and I'm still adjusting to my touch screen which makes typing a bitch! Also when I'm typing I can only see a small part of what I typed and I can't see all of it until its posted or I could scroll through to see what I typed,but that's time consuming. 

Forgive my poor post when I wrote "Don't get wrong though" I was trying to say"don't get me wrong though" also when I said "after all shit I learned" I was trying to say " after all of the shit I learned" . Sometimes I'm in a rush and I just let my phone do the typing for me when I should be doing all of the typing. 

>>671725
Unfortunately, you may end up feeling it worse than me, because I never had shit to begin with, I started off at the bottom so I never had to crash. In other words, I'm so used to feeling empty that I don't know any other way to live, but you know what you are missing out on and those memories will haunt you every second you are alone. Or maybe not, who knows, don't go tying a noose just yet. There's no uplifting way to warn you that you are screwed.
I've never considered suicide, but when I said "dangerous and often painful methods", I was referring to punching myself in the side of the head as hard as I could, or sometimes using a hammer. At a certain point things were so bad that cranial trauma was the only way to drive the bad thoughts out of my head. Obviously it hurt like hell, but it completely cleared my mind, like hitting a reset button in your brain, and then for a few seconds it felt like I wasn't a pedo, like how normal people must feel all the time, and it was glorious. You gotta hit the right spot, where your temple is, that way it's the closest you can get to hitting your brain directly. But, anyway, I stopped doing that because I didn't need to anymore, now I am strong enough that I can mentally clear my thoughts whenever I need to. So, I wouldn't exactly recommend the head punching method, but it's good to keep as an option if you ever really need it.
As for therapy, yes I know how they "treat" pedos, I've seen A Clockwork Orange, I get the idea.
I feel like we are spamming this lovely...suicide thread. Do you use msn or skype by any chance?

>>671726
Haha, well that answers my last question I suppose. Don't worry about grammar and shit, I've been speaking to idiots for many years so I speak fluent typo. Of coarse you have a good excuse to make mistakes, where most people are just plain stupid.

10 year old commits suicide:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/20/authorities-girls-suicide-cant-be-attributed-to-bullying/

Longtime news anchor kills himself:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Longtime-KOMO-anchor-Eric-Slocum-dies-at-54-3371186.php

Kids witness parents' murder-suicide:
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/23/three-kids-witness-to-parents-murder-suicide-police

Ph.D student commits suicide:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Ph-D-student-commits-suicide-in-Pune/articleshow/12385987.cms

Gay Mormon commits suicide after getting excommunicated from his church:
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/09/23/327678/gay-mormon-commits-suicide-after-coming-out-and-being-ostracized/?mobile=nc

5 dead in murder-suicide:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/san-francisco-murder-suicide_n_1375870.html

Married couple kill themselves in suicide pact:
http://www.leamingtonobserver.co.uk/2012/03/23/news-Married-Leamington-artists-in-%27suicide-pact%27-33777.html

>>671728
Well I have never used Skype before,I usually stick with yahoo. As for what you said "but you know what you are missing out on and those memories will haunt you every second you are alone." I actually had one hell of a spiritual revelation when I recalled these memories a couple of days ago. Two days ago I was consumed by sadness once I realized I may never be able to be around loli's as much as I could before. Not to mention the fact that everything I believe in,everything I stand for,everything I represent is despised by the entire world. The only way to live is to live a life of sadness and misery where as if I find peace and live a happy life children could get hurt because of my actions. Of course I could seek "help",but that might do me more harm than good,because pedophiles get treated like evil sub-humans. 

Anyways I let these thoughts consume me until I reached a new level of pain and despair,IT WAS TERRIBLE! The more I thought about it,the more I wanted to die and to make things worse sometimes terrible music plays in my head when I am sad. I can't remember the name of the video game,but it was an old sega genesis game and it had this god awful music and sometimes when I get really sad that music pops in my mind and that just adds more disgust and pain. 

I developed a mindset like this " I am a monster. I am like a virus that's hard to get rid of and nobody would want to help a person like me. If I seek help it could just make things worse and everybody will hate me once they find out about who I really am,if I kill myself I could go to hell or cease to exist and my corpse would be consumed by maggots and other bugs,not to mention the fact that everyone I love wouldn't even care if I died because god forbid somebody mourns over a pedophile. People would just laugh and mock who I was when I was alive. Even the ones closest to me would be glad that I was dead." The pain was so bad that it almost made me black out and then I finally decided to pray and see if a god would respond to me or help me. 

I prayed for like 5 hours (no joke!) and there was no response,and then the next day I prayed some more. Out of nowhere a thought suddenly popped up in my head. I was like in a deep meditative state and I felt as if I was becoming a completely different person. That's when I saw life through the eyes of nature! It was amazing and at first I couldn't even believe what I was seeing,and once I set my emotions aside I saw life in a way that I never even thought was possible. I saw through the eyes of life,death,good and evil and the only word I could think of that could describe my experience was CHAOS. It was amazing,but sad at the same time...that's when I finally learned the "meaning" of life...well at least I can say there is tons of evidence to support what I saw.

That's when I saw good people as evil people and evil people as good people,but at the same time BOTH groups are niether good or evil. For the first time in my life I am very close to achieving the status of a Buddah ( awakened one). The only thing I have left to do is adjust to my new perception of life and sooner or later the sadness will become a thing of the past! Anyways I want to share something about pedophilia on /con/ so it will be posted today or tomorrow. Sorry for putting my theory off for so long,but like I said before I am using a phone to access the web and it takes forever to finish a post. It will be up soon though,I might also post my theory on the meaning of life as well. 

>>671744
Huh, I think I still have a yahoo account that I haven't touched in years. Wonder if it's still around. Anyway, I've stopped caring about how the whole world hates me years ago, that's the last thing on my mind these days, it's not like I am terribly fond of them and need their approval. Norms are ignorant, weak, thoughtless, self-absorbed cockwarts and I couldn't give less of a shit what they think about me.
Think of it this way, most of the world still hates gays because the repeatedly altered old testament of the bible which ONLY applies to the JEWISH religion loosely hints at gays being evil, and also explicitly forbids seafood, pork, circumcision, working on sunday, and women talking in church, but it advocates rape, slavery, wife-beating and child murder...of coarse they ignore all those parts, but that ONE fucking sentence talking about homosexuality which didn't even fucking exist in the older drafts of the bible is a good enough reason for most norms to completely disregard a large segment of the population for how they were born. THESE are the fucking people who devastate you with their disapproval? Priorities man!
Lolis are all that matter in life, regular humans are a lesser life form and their opinions matter about as much as a filthy sewer rat's opinion should matter to you.
Anyway, you haven't reached a new level of pain and despair until you've either puked or started itching intensely all over. That's why you need to cut these thoughts off before they get to strong, and it might be years before you can do that mentally with no outside distraction. Also, try listening to really depressing music, that always helps for me, makes me feel better because it forces me realize that things could be much worse. Take this for example, my favorite doom metal band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjqEXr7TQPU
As for all the meditation stuff, that's where you lost me, I am far too literal for that stuff, it would never work with me.

>>671527
I know this is old,but this post caught my attention. I hate to say this,but I think world peace is impossible. I think mankind is just a worthless piece of shit and the only thing we are good for is making tools in order to make ourselves happier and nothing more. I agree with you on religion though,I think religion itself is very destructive,but at the same time if religion didn't exist then there could only be more destruction. I mean if you were to eliminate the fear of an eternal punishment people would probably just kill eachother even faster and the overwhelming majority of the population would just go crazy.

>>671746
 "Loli's are all that matter in life, regular humans are a lesser life form and their opinions matter about as much as a filthy sewer rat's opinion should matter to you. " True...For a while I never really gave a shit about how others thought of me,but I guess I sort of care about how my family see's me. I am what I am though,and I just need to stop giving a shit and go back to the way I was before. 

I think I said this a while back,but not too long ago I was hit by a vehicle and I almost died right there and then. A few months ago I was introduced to a whole new level of physical pain and it altered my perception of reality. The pain was so bad that I got to the point to where I just wanted to die. Well to make this story a little shorter I ended up having multiple surgeries within a week and after the second surgery I ended up feeling even more pain and it was actually worse than it was right after the actual accident! I spent over 5 hours of the night screaming in agony until I finally passed out.

During that week of hell,I started thinking about death and what it might be like:"will I just cease to be or will I go to hell?" LOL then I starting dwelling on the idea of hell,and how terrifying it would be to deal with a pain that was by far worse than what I was going though. I was never really afraid to die,but those ideas really messed with my head and to make things worse,on the 4th day at the hospital my heart almost gave out on me. 

My heart had a hard time dealing with all of the trauma and I had like 7 doctors trying to stabilize my heart rate. Then suddenly out of nowhere I could feel myself slowly dying and that was beyond painful,but I barely made it out alive. 

I know things can be worse (a lot worse) and I already listen to depressing heavy metal songs,by the way I can't load that link you sent me. Still ever since then my idealism died and my dreams are nothing more than a mere memory now. 

When it comes to the opposite sex,all I think about is Loli's,but what if...what if it's not even possible for pedos to be accepted? That thought has been haunting me for a while and just thinking about it makes me feel like my heart and soul is being ripped out of my chest and thrown into a fire pit. Oh well...I'm just going to have to learn how to cope. 

Still these debates have kept me sane over the years and it really did help me function and deal with my unfulfilled life. What happens now? Who knows. Anyways have you ever heard of the band Five finger death punch? That band has plenty of depressing songs.:)

One more thing,if you want to read about some of my theories on pedophilia check out /con/.

>>671766
Actually, religion has caused a lot more destruction throughout history than it has prevented. For every reformed criminal who makes a conscious decision to go straight and uses religion as an excuse to stay that way, there are hundreds of people who were slaughtered for worshiping the wrong god. The entire middle-east was a peaceful place as early as 60 years ago, then out of nowhere they decided to start living their lives more strictly by their sickening misinterpretation of Islam and...well, you've seen the results. It seems at first glance that religion should keep people in line, but the reason it doesn't is because it is too easy to bend to your own will. People can find pathetically weak and historically inaccurate excuses in their religion to kill in the name of their god, people can do whatever the fuck they want and ask decide that god will forgive them, or they can mistake their own subconscious for the instructions of god to do even more evil. There are too many loopholes and it's too easy to get around every rule and justify every action, except for the Jewish religion which is extremely strict and has an insane amount of rules that are impossible to get around, which is why Jewish people tend to be the least dangerous out of every religion.
But the difference with non-religious people is, atheists don't believe in an afterlife so the life we live now is too important to waste, and agnostics realize that every religion has some balance of good and evil so it's best to stay on the safe side and be a good person in case there is an afterlife in which you can be punished for your actions on earth.
Generally, people do whatever the fuck they want regardless of what their religion says and no amount of logic and common sense can change their mind because it is easier to desperately cling to your beliefs than adapt to a new system, but religion only acts as a justification tool. Without religion many people would be left with no excuse to kill whoever they wanted and conservatives would have no excuse to continue holding back progress, not to mention thousands of kids would have gone unmolested by priests. Not only would society be a safer place without religion, we would be at least 1000 years more advanced

>>671768
Well I've never experienced anything quite that bad all at once, but I have been in constant pain since I was about 10, due to several muscle problems. I can't tell whether it might have gotten better within the past few years or I am just so used to it that I barely notice it anymore. Either way, physical pain is really the least of my problems.
I still can't understand how you are a few years older than me, yet you still care about being accepted by the idiot masses. I don't know if pedos will ever be accepted and I really couldn't care less, I like not being accepted, because at least it makes me more interesting than the the faceless norms out there who all blend together. I don't want to be like them, I especially don't want to be like some boring male stereotype who talks about nothing but cars and sports. They may see me as some weird loser but I see them as weak-minded sheep, they will never have their own thoughts and opinions and they will never stand out.
If you want to be accepted, sit around drinking beer and watching football all day while talking about banging ugly old grannies. If you want to be an individual, the first step is to stop giving a shit what these sheep think of you.

>>671771
"Not only would society be a safer place without religion, we would be at least 1000 years more advanced." It's possible,I mean as long as we still have politics mankind could still function. Well there may be some hope for mankind,but still I have little to no faith in humanity or maybe I just hate my own speices. 

As for God I'm not really sure if there is a God,I mean hell if there's a God then why does he allow such terrible things happen to decent people? I don't really believe in the Christian version of God,but I'm not excluding the possibility of the existence of a God. If there is a God or Goddess out there I sure hope that he or she is kind and merciful. Or who knows maybe life is completely meaningless. 

>>671773
" If you want to be accepted, sit around drinking beer and watching football all day while talking about banging ugly old grannies. If you want to be an individual, the first step is to stop giving a shit what these sheep think of you." First off I hate being fake,I just don't see the point in having "friends" if you can't even be yourself. Hell I would rather be alone than to have fake friends and I have always been that way. No the only thing I care about is what my family thinks of me. Of course now I am starting to care less,only because they don't have a fucking clue about how I really feel about kids. 

Honestly I'm not even sure if there is a word out there that could express my feelings for loli's,I mean I could say I love them,but even that word isnt perfect. It takes a pedophile to understand a pedophile and I guess you could say that makes us more unique. It is what it is...It's not like I am extremely upset about not being accepted,it's just that I wish I could be around loli's. They are just so wonderful! People are sheep though,there's no denying it,freethinking is pretty rare nowa days.

As for pedophilia,I don't think we are mentally ill I just think we were dealt a bad hand and I think that's why the government insists on labeling pedophilia as an illness. When I first started doing research on this subject I actually found several government websites that said that pedophiles shouldn't be accepted,but at the same time they said that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that exist to preserve our speices. I also found another website that explained about how normal pedophiles are etc. Anyways I would say about a year later these websites VANISHED and I still can't find them. There was something that did add to my sadness though,one of my favorite doctors gave up on defending pedophilia and how it is not an illness, of course he did get outvoted though. 

I think we are normal/natural,I mean if we can't be detected irl and it's very easy to mistaken a heterosexual man for a pedophile then I would say that we are normal and I also think that we are more normal than the gays,because some gays are just easy to spot! I was going to mention this in /con/,but I'm tired and I think it will take me too long to post it there tonight so I will post a part of it here. 

I think pedophilia exists in nature,but the thing is I think the sexual part of our attraction is pretty much useless. When I first read that article about pedophilia being a sexual orientation that exists to preserve our speices I assumed that it had something to do with breeding or something related to sex. The thing is though pedophilia isn't just about sex,there are other feelings that we have towards kids such as love,admiration,fascination,charity,beauty etc. Now these feelings are A PART OF OUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION so these lovey dovey feelings that we have for kids are not the same as how a heterosexual would feel for a child. At the same time many pedos don't necessarily fall in love with kids either,there is like a parental instinct and a romantic element involved,so this is a unique sexual orientation. 

So why would evolution create a pedophile? Why do we have these strange feelings for loli's? Pedophiles have been around for thousands and thousands of years and life back then was a lot harder than it is now. Now I know that most parents love their children especially back then and a parent doesn't have to be attracted to their children in order to protect and take care of them. However what if the parents died or what if the child got lost? A child is defenseless without an adult and I can see how someone could easily lack the motivation to take care of a child that wasn't theirs,so nature had to find a way to save these defenseless children,thus pedophiles were born. We were designed to take care of them,make them happy and PROTECT them until they grow up. I think this is a good possibility,besides a "sexually abused" child is a hell of a lot better than a dead child. 

Who knows though,I think doctors need to quit being biased and actually start doing more genetic testing. Well sorry for the long post,but this saved me a lot of time in the long run...good night. 

Prep baseball star commits suicide:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/prep-baseball-superstar-possible-first-round-mlb-pick-170907446.html

Retiree kills himself in crowded public square in Athens Greece, sparks violent protest:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/04/retirees-suicide-jolts-greece-triggers-violence/

3 dead in murder-suicide:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Livonia-police-say-3-dead-1-hurt-in-apparent-murder-suicide/-/1719418/10209900/-/eqakg7/-/index.html

2 women kill themselves in the same tree in the same week:
http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/618614_Second-woman-hangs-herself-in-tree-within-week.html

>>671802
My family are also the only people who I give the slightest fuck what they think about me. They might accept me for who I am, and they might not, so why take the risk by telling them? As far as they know, I am asexual, and I have a pedo friend who went the same route with his family, because it's just too much damn work to pretend we are normal heteros or something.
As for your theory, it's a good one, I've never considered that. Maybe pedos serve 2 functions, maybe we were created for the reason you mentioned and we continue to exist because the world needs more people who don't reproduce to balance out overpopulation. Evolution does have a way of balancing things. By the way, is there some other way I can contact you so we can leave this lovely thread to the guy who masturbates to suicide stories?

>>671806
>guy who masturbates to suicide stories
It's better than masturbating to stories of delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophiles.

>>671807
Excuse me, but did I ask for your fucking opinion? Why don't you go auto-erotic asphyxiate yourself, you complete waste of organs.

>>671810
>Excuse me, but did I ask for your fucking opinion?
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who is expressing his off topic opinion in someone elses thread.

>you complete waste of organs.
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who everyone would hate if they knew was a pedophile, and most would say is a complete waste of organs.

I hate the fact that some people want to hurt LGs and I have found a place for people that like LGs like me to see. check it out if you are interested.
http://y-camp.co.uk

>>671806
"By the way, is there some other way I can contact you so we can leave this lovely thread to the guy who masturbates to suicide stories?" We could talk on a pedo thread in /con/ I guess. Normally I don't give out my email address on a chan,because with my luck I would get attacked by a bunch of trolls. 

As for my family,I know for a fact that they would hate me if they ever found out about my secret. I don't even have to assume that they would hate me, I KNOW they would hate me. By the way there is no way in hell that I would ever tell anybody irl that I am a pedo,unless I have a death wish. 

Also I want to apologize to OP,I didn't mean to spam the hell out of your thread. I can get carried away sometimes,and I sort of started this whole thing.

>>671813
What are you still doing here? I thought I told you to go auto-erotic asphyxiate yourself.

THAT y-camp SITE IS FBI

>>671815
In that case, you can just email me here:
quindarious.gooch @ gmail.com
That's a temporary account I just made, I can delete it later.

>>671819
>What are you still doing here?
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who is still someone elses thread discussing off topic material

>I thought I told you to go auto-erotic asphyxiate yourself.
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who everyone would hate if they knew was a pedophile, and most would think would be better off committing suicide.

>>671821
Got it,thanks. 

>>671822
"and most would think would be better off committing suicide." I have thought about this a lot,but the thing is if there is a hell then Im screwed,so in the end I would not be better off! I would much rather feel dead and empty inside,and sometimes cry myself to sleep at night and cursing the world I live in vs burning in an eternal lake of fire! Of course I don't really believe in god,but I want to be in the safe side.  I won't post on this thread anymore unless it has something to do with suicide. 

>>671822
Did you really just say the exact same thing twice in a row, with the same picture to go with it? Are you retarded or just lazy?
Oh, let me guess what you're gonna say next..."says the delusional pedo blah blah who cares"
Give it up dude, before it stops being funny and starts being sad.

>>671825
>Are you retarded or just lazy?
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who is too lazy and retarded to start his own thread to cry about his problems being a pedophile.

>Give it up dude, before it stops being funny and starts being sad.
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who just replied to the same copy and paste post.

>>671826
Ok, now it's sad.

>>671832
>Ok, now it's sad.
Says the delusional, winy, mentally ill pedophile, who just replied to the same copy and paste post, FOR THE THIRD TIME!

>>671832
Message received. Sorry I'm a day late. 

>>671834
This is sad,but also funny. I like watching the delusional,mentally ill moral fag complain about pedos posting in this thread and calling us delusional,winy,mentally ill pedophiles while at the same time it hasn't even been fully proven that pedophiles are mentally ill. 

No more name calling though,this thread is about suicide so here it goes: A few years ago I met a guy who seemed normal at the time and he was also kind of cool. However about 5 months ago he went insane and cut up half of his face with a knife and then he cut his dick off. He then stabbed himself and died. Sad shit man,sad shit. 

Also a few years ago a boy I knew killed himself after he got in a fight with his parents. I also knew a sweet loli that killed herself by cutting her wrists. I didn't know the girl very well,but her parents had a very bad reputation and they spent most of the day stoned and strung out in drugs. 

>>671835
>moral fag
I'm not a moral fag. I could care less if you like to fuck prepubescent children.

>it hasn't even been fully proven that pedophiles are mentally ill
I just calling that poster a mentally ill pedophile because he is clearly mentally ill and a pedophile, I didn't say that ALL pedophiles are mentally ill.

"My therapist committed suicide, checking out of a life that many perceived as an almost perfect one":
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chuck-gomez/when-your-therapist-commits-suicide_b_1414340.html

Third suicide at the same suburban school in less than a year:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/third-suicide-prompts-brampton-school-to-address-the-subject-head-on/article2400767/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Life&utm_content=2
400767

Guitar legend Ronnie Montrose kills himself:
http://loudwire.com/ronnie-montrose-death-confirmed-a-suicide/

Woman killed as suicide jumper lands on her:
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Woman-killed-as-suicide-jumper-lands-on-her-20120404

"The rate of people taking their own lives is soaring in Europe at such a clip that the trend has given birth to a new media term: 'Suicide by economic crisis.' "
http://www.alternet.org/economy/155012/crisis_to_suicide%3A_how_many_have_to_die_before_we_kill_the_false_religion_of_austerity

I like how this semi-decent thread has been derailed into yet another aimless debate about pedophilia. This is how these arguments always end up, with people regurgitating the same tired concepts and throwing petty insults at each other. But whatever, I am sure both sides are enjoying discussing their *favourite* topic.

>>671864
I played a part in this and now I sort of feel bad. I think the only time I will ever discuss pedophilia in an 
unrelated thread is if a bunch of other pedos start a debate,but even then I will refrain from posting. 

Well I guess if there isn't a solution to the male pedo's tragedy,then I really don't have any desire to live. I mean I just don't see the point of living if you can't even be around lg's. If our situation is truly hopeless then,my soul will just fade away and all that will be left of me is a walking,emotionless corpse. And yes I am prepared to accept this possibility and if this happens,I will wait a few years and then an hero once the pain becomes unbearable. In the end though,my death will be epic and I will turn this tragic situation into a comedy. Well farewell. May the love and light shine on in this dark and cruel world...

>>671868
Do it faggot

This board could really do with less of your "life is so hard for us pedos!" bullshit

>>671870
It's easy for someone who is not a pedo to say that. Also, this thread is fucking retarded anyway, nobody gives the slightest fuck about these stupid suicide stories.

>>671871
Oh believe me, I want to fuck kids. Big time. 

But at the same time wanting to fuck kids is the least of my worries.

Well congratulations, your "Worst Problems in the Universe" trophy should arrive in the mail shortly.

Member of the band "The Killers" commits suicide:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/killers-touring-saxophonist-commits-suicide-20120426

Former NFL player kills himself:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1154382-ray-easterling-death-of-former-atlanta-falcons-db-ruled-a-suicide

4 students and a professor commit suicide at the same college, all in less than 4 months time:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/world/asia/23southkorea.html

Man commits suicide at the library:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/53995815-78/death-library-lake-salt.html.csp

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Evolution is Suicide means: someone who found early the way to be something Better

7-year old boy kills himself:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/7-year-old-detroit-boy-fo_n_1541969.html

Comedian commits suicide:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/c-c-banana-commits-suicide/

Man kills his 3 young children and wife, then himself, in murder-suicide:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/22/5-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-oregon-police-say/

After 43 years of marriage, Donald Schaffer took a handgun to his wife's nursing home, shot her to death as she lay in bed and then turned the gun on himself:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_20676204/murder-suicide-couple-reported-at-wheat-ridge-nursing

Man commits suicide, bullet hits friend:
http://www.khq.com/story/18605797/man-commits-suicide-bullet-hits-friend

NFL star commits suicide:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/19/a-terrible-tragedy-yields-a-reflective-moment/

Mother and son commit suicide together:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/greek-financial-crisis-suicide_n_1543050.html

Man kills 5 people, then himself, in shooting spree:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/ian-stawicki-seattle-cafe-shooter-kills-shoots-citywide/story?id=16463885#.T8ds91KgXt8

Man kills himself after being fired from his job via text message:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151159/Father-tipped-edge-killed-sacked-job-text-message.html

Death row inmate commits suicide:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/31/us-usa-deathrow-suicide-idUSBRE84T1LV20120531

12 year old boy commits suicide after being bullied about having a dead father:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/12-year-old-east-harlem-boy-driven-suicide-sick-bullies-taunted-dead-father-article-1.1087190

Political candidate kills self in opponents front yard:
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/221459/2/Candidate-commits-suicide-in-front-of-opponents-home

Man commits suicide after catching wife with another man:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/6/5/nation/11415236&sec=nation

Indian man kills himself after being taunted over having a dark-skinned bride:
http://www.firstpost.com/fwire/taunted-over-dark-skinned-bride-groom-commits-suicide-332734.html

Passengers delayed during morning commute due to man committing suicide on the tracks:
http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/06/sacramento-passengers-delayed-by-suisun-city-rail-suicide.html

India has some of the world's highest suicide rates, highest in the 15-29 age group, peaking in regions that are considered richer and more developed with better education, social welfare and health care:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/22/report-shows-high-suicide-rate-among-young-indians-518713146/

Fitness guru who starred in hit TV show 'The Biggest Loser' commits suicide:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/22/angie-dowds-inquest-texts-personal-trainer-suicide-leap_n_1617950.html

Former Prime Minister attempts suicide:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/20/us-romania-corruption-idUSBRE85J1MW20120620

Two 17 year old boys commit suicide together:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/748313--siu-says-jolley-cut-teens-left-suicide-notes

Assisted Suicide on the ballot in Massachusetts:
http://www.npr.org/2012/10/25/163643370/assisted-suicide-goes-to-vote-in-massachusetts

Fifth Tibetan in a week to commit suicide by setting himself on fire:
http://www.abc4.com/news/world/story/Five-Tibetans-die-in-protest/f8xGXMGd0EGM8sLUksyvRA.cspx

Brilliant NYU professor commits suicide:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-01-14/news/17943593_1_computer-science-suicide-colleagues

Famous Hollywood director kills himself:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1696114/tony-scott-death-suicide.jhtml

Hmmm

Murder-Suicide in Walmart parking lot:
http://www.lex18.com/news/murder-suicide-starts-in-walmart-parking-lot

Dean of St. Johns University commits suicide:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/st_john_dean_of_mean_tnROIZnwdT9bZeP7ueNnpL

Man who shot his jaw off in suicide attempt wants state to pay to fix it:
http://www.ktvz.com/news/Ore-inmate-wants-state-to-pay-for-fixing-his-jaw/-/413192/17349996/-/vehyd7/-/index.html

Secret Service agent kills himself:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/01/secret-service-agent-suicide_n_2060422.html

Man commits suicide at Lambeau Field:
http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/11/05/man-commits-suicide-in-lambeau-field-parking-lot/

Woman with "persistent genital arousal" disorder kills herself (had to masturbate for hours, had 50 orgasms in a row):
http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/4145/20121205/gretchen-molannen-suicide-woman-who-masturbate-hours.htm

>>672218
Umm, no. All links on this site have those ads. Learn to copypaste.

Man kills 20 elementary school children and 6 adults, then himself:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?_r=0

Girl commits suicide just months after her sister commits suicide:
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/--Tragedy-as-Donegal-teenager-found-dead-just-months-after-her-sisters-suicide-183332001.html

Man commits suicide just months after his brother commits suicide:
http://www.capitalbay.com/latest-news/281815-family-s-heartbreak-after-losing-second-son-to-suicide-in-less-than-nine-months-jonathan-watson-found-dead-in-family-home-in-stanmore-herts.html

Employee commits suicide in federal courthouse:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/14/us-employee-suicide-idUSBRE8BD01D20121214

Murder Suicide Leaves 3 dead and dog shot in the face:
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/20512125/murder-suicide-leaves-3-dead-and-dog-shot-in-the-face

Man leaves Facebook farewell , commits suicide on Christmas:
"To all my friends and family on Facebook. Thank you all you have all made an impact on my life some of you good some of you not but you all are loved I hope you all have wonderful lives."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-leaves-facebook-suicide-note-kills-collision-train-article-1.1229256

The Year of the Suicide:
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/31/the_year_of_the_suicide/

Pastor's wife commits suicide in gun store parking lot:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastors-wife-commits-suicide-in-texas-gun-store-parking-lot-87535/

Paralyzed, deaf, and mute man kills himself:
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Paralysed_deaf-mute_commits_suicide-185722851.html

Navy SEAL commander commits suicide:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/navy-seal-dies-apparent-suicide-article-1.1226465

Family of four dead in suicide pact:
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/303073/four-family-end-lives-suicide.html

Dude that is one lucky monkey right there. Wow.

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